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K serials and others

It is some time since I last posted so I thought you might like to see some pics taken during the 1930s.

1 is J9770 Boulton Paul Overstrand taken between 1935 and 1938
2 is K2008 Audax of 24 Squadron
3 is K2037 Fury 1 of 1 squadron prior to May 1935
4 is K2984 Hart of 600 Squadron prior 16/04/34
5 is K7039 Blenheim 1 of 114 Squadron coded Y prior December 37
6 is K7184 Whitley 1 of 10 Squadron

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By: GlynRamsden - 7th May 2006 at 16:57

I meant that the actual aircraft originated pre war but you are right a couple were taken post war.

The aircraft with the Gordan are Victorias.

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By: 25deg south - 7th May 2006 at 15:36

JDK Agreed. Looks very much like it. Might that be Victoria/Valentia conversion going on in the Gordon picture? Possibly at RAF Hinaidi at a long shot?

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By: JDK - 7th May 2006 at 12:52

Great pics as ever, Glynn, but two aren’t from pre-W.W.II, are they?

The Bulldog is G-ABBB, at Farnborough, very postwar, with G-AMRK (The Shuttleworth Gladiator) and the Spitfire is the RAF Museum’s example, isn’t it?

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By: GlynRamsden - 7th May 2006 at 12:37

here are another sixfrom pre war II days.

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1 Spitfire F1A K9942 coded SD-V on Horseguards Parade
2 Gordan K2644 of 6 Squadron in the construction hangar this is via Steve Harris.
3 Wapiti IIA K1391 of 55 Squadron in Iraq. Via Steve Harris.
4 Hart K3881 of 610 Squadron
5 Heyford II K4863 of 7 Squadron
6 Bulldog IIA K2227 of 56 Squadron

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By: Steve Bond - 8th March 2006 at 15:35

Wonderful shots Glyn.

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By: GlynRamsden - 8th March 2006 at 14:09

Alex,

Thanks for the info. I looked long and hard at the print and after much consideration decided that the badge did not look quite right for 1 Sqadron and hence chose 25.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

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By: DaveF68 - 6th March 2006 at 13:03

2 Vickers type 253, which crashed at Brooklands 23/07/35 K2771

If K2771 crashed, it wasn’t a write-off as it survived into the 40s as an engine testbed

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By: Alex Crawford - 5th March 2006 at 11:12

Hi,

Very interested in photos of Furys and Nimrods at the moment, for obvious reasons as explained by JDK.

The photo of Fury K2048 actualy shows it in the markings of 1 Squadron. The markings of 1 and 25 Squadrons were very similar and could only be distinguished by the colour. 1 Sqn’s were red and 25 Sqn’s were black. In the spearpoint on the fin you can just make out 1 Sqn’s badge, a winged red 1.

As James said the manuscript for my Fury/Nimrod book has been done but as always we are always looking for more photos. Can anyone help?

Can’t wait for your Lizzie book James.

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By: JDK - 5th March 2006 at 02:38

Hi Jagan,
Thanks for those.

The Lysander book will be out mid April (aprox) So, yes, you can order it from your favourite bookseller soon. We’ve gone to more pages than ever before, but the price is still the same – 9.99 in the UK.

I’d like to say although it’s got my name on the front, it wouldn’t be a fraction as good without all the lovely people who’ve helped, and you know who you are, quite a few here – thanks!

Cheers

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By: Jagan - 5th March 2006 at 02:14

Ah K Serials!

A very kind contributor had sent us some photos on our site. A number of Harts, Audax, and the odd Atlanta , Valencia and Lysander

The photos are at these links
“Aircraft of No.1 SFTS”
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/Trg-1SFTS02.html

and

“RAF Stn Kohat”
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/KohatAC.html

JDK,

Whats news about the Lizzie book?

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By: JDK - 4th March 2006 at 23:10

Thanks Glyn,
These are great. Alex Crawford is working on a pair of books on the Hawker Biplanes for us (us being MMP Books ) and has just delivered the draft Fury / Nimrod manuscript. It’ll be a few months before it’s out, but in the meantime I’m sure Alex will be along shortly with some input on the pics.

Looks like the Fury shot has a Thompson refueler in the background, with ‘Air Services Training Ltd’ on the side, so wearing my deerstalker and meerschaum pipe, I’d deduce that it might be Hamble, where I think AST Ltd were based – but I’ll admit it might be a Watson level deduction, involving a dose of guesswork! 😉 It seems reasonable to assume it’s at a civil aerodrome rather than an RAF base from the bowser though. Incidentally, K2048 has a pennant behind the cockpit, so may be the CO’s aircraft, perhaps flight commander?

Great aircraft anyway.

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By: GlynRamsden - 4th March 2006 at 20:04

It’s now about six months since anyone posted to this thread so here are another five views from I suspect the mid to late 30s. Once again I do not know exactly when these were taken or where or who took them. I hope you enjoy them.

Glyn

1 Hawker Demon I K3774 of 29 squadron
2 Hawker Fury I K2048 of 25 squadron
3 Hawker Hart Trainer K4754 of 3FTS
4 Vickers Vildebeest III K4592 of 22 squadron
5 Fairey IIIF mark IIIB S1514

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By: Arm Waver - 8th September 2005 at 08:08

Could the letters possibly have been applied as part of an exercise or the like?

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By: Alex Crawford - 7th September 2005 at 22:41

Hi,

Just come across another photo of Hind K5514 from 104 Sqn. The photo is in the ‘K’ File The RAF of the 30’s on page 264. The caption states that it was from ‘C’ Flight.

This would then explain the large letter ‘C’ on the fuselage, if the caption is correct of course.

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By: Papa Lima - 10th August 2005 at 15:32

I would say 1935, the last Hendon show, since all these aircraft appeared at that show (list on page 22 of “40 years at Farnborough”)

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By: GlynRamsden - 10th August 2005 at 14:57

Stormbird262,

Firstly my apologies for calling you Stormrider – yet another senior moment!

Thanks for information about the film, I must try and obtain a copy.

One or two more pics for everyone.

1 Westland Pterodactyl V K2770
2 Vickers type 253, which crashed at Brooklands 23/07/35 K2771
3 Vickers type 246 private venture O-9 PVO-9

Note both K2771 and PVO-9 were to specification G.4/31 but PVO-9 was far superior to K2771 and later evolved into the Wellesley.

4 Avro Tutor nearest is K3262, which crashed 02/12/35
5 De Havilland DH-88 Comet K5084 ex G-ACSS
6 Avro Tutor

I suspect these were taken at Hendon in 1934

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By: STORMBIRD262 - 10th August 2005 at 12:34

I usually stuff link’s up, so just went and got it instead, Enjoy!

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By: STORMBIRD262 - 10th August 2005 at 12:15

I taped it of the A.B.C.,(Channel 2), here in Australia.

Pulling a late shift to taped it at about 3 am.

Called, RAF 1935, It’s a propaganda the did to make the RAF look good at the time.

Going though me note’s, Hang five mate, I will see if I can find the thread from a while back.

Title is Sort of ” Britain’s Future is in the Air “.

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By: JDK - 10th August 2005 at 12:08

The Hendon displays used a ‘New Types Park Number’ for each new aircraft displayed, keyed to the guide (I presume) one bought at the show. The New Types Park was a compound where the aircraft were on show when they weren’t flying.

But they were numbers, not letters. The letters mystify me.

Great pics, thanks for sharing!

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By: GlynRamsden - 10th August 2005 at 11:34

Stormrider,

J8615 was a Hawker Horsley II.

I missed the film you are discussing. What was it called?

Glyn

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