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MAST Europe 2016: Portugal updates frigate modernisation roadmap

Alex Pape, Amsterdam – IHS Jane’s Navy International
22 June 2016

The Portuguese Navy is to follow the path set by the Royal Dutch and Belgian navies to modernise its pair of M-class frigates, locally referred to as the Bartolomeu Dias class. Speaking at the MAST maritime defence exhibition in Amsterdam, Rear Admiral Jose Belo Garcia, head of Ships Directorate for the Portuguese Navy, noted that the navy had decided to upgrade the two ex-Royal Netherlands Navy (RNLN) frigates.

The Portuguese Navy acquired the ex-RNLN ships, decommissioned early under defence cuts, under a 2006 contract. The first vessel, Bartolomeu Dias (ex- Van Nes , decommissioned from the RNLN in December 2007) was handed over in January 2009.

http://www.janes.com/article/61706/mast-europe-2016-portugal-updates-frigate-modernisation-roadmap

Posted on January 8, 2010 by worldef

Portuguese Navy 3320 Tonnes Bartolomeu Dias Class F334 NRP Dom Francisco de Almeida (ex RNLN F834 HrMs Van Galen), the second and last Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding built (formerly Royal Schelde) Type M multi-purpose frigate acquired by Portugal in the Netherlands will be officially transferred on January 15 during a ceremony to be held in Den Helder and hosted by the Portuguese Defence Secretary Marcos da Cunha e Lorena Perestrello de Vasconcellos and by the Portuguese Navy Chief of Staff Admiral Fernando José Ribeiro de Melo Gomes.

Before to sail to its homeport in Portugal, the Portuguese crew will perform training and qualification trials onboard the vessel.

In January of 2009, the first vessel, F333 NRP Bartolomeu Dias (formerly F833 HrMs Van Nes) has been transferred to Portugal.

http://poadu.wordpress.com/

Transfer Cerimony of the NRP Bartolomeu Dias

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-hYa_RGnE

Splendid little ships, aren’t they?

Yes very nice! 🙂

actually I’m looking for a photo of the F333 already with Portuguese Flag but so far I got no luck 🙁

maybe somebody here can help?

Splendid little ships, aren’t they?

The Van Nes was officially transferred to Portugal last friday, 16th January.

She is now named “NRP Bartolomeu Dias”

from the great masters of ship-drawing :cool::)

(just a remark, the pennant should be moved a little to the back, more or less aligned with the 76mm gun) 😉

like here>>>

no, no , no!!!

Maybe i did not explain myself….the gun mounted on board will be replaced by an IDENTICAL Oto-Melara 76 mm
(that is being maintained now)

The one on board is still the original from the Van Nes that will afterwards go for maintenance

We will keep the 76 mm , no plans for creuseot-loire

😉

Thank goodness (thought these would look nice sproting a US 5″ and 2 rather than 1 goalkeeper, with one directly in front of the bridge)

Oooh, are they going to stuff a French 100mm gun in there? That’ll be different, it will look funky on these ships. But, if they replace the main gun – presumably for logistical reasons – why keep the goalkeeper?

no, no , no!!!

Maybe i did not explain myself….the gun mounted on board will be replaced by an IDENTICAL Oto-Melara 76 mm
(that is being maintained now)

The one on board is still the original from the Van Nes that will afterwards go for maintenance

We will keep the 76 mm , no plans for creuseot-loire

😉

(for example the 76mm gun is not the definitive, will be replaced still, so it was not even painted in “PN grey”, it is still on Dutch Navy grey)

Oooh, are they going to stuff a French 100mm gun in there? That’ll be different, it will look funky on these ships. But, if they replace the main gun – presumably for logistical reasons – why keep the goalkeeper?

Two remarks:
1- No flight deck modification like the M’s going to Belgium (for larger NH90)
2- Apparently no radars on the Goalkeeper and main mast > not ready to go to Portugal (?) or getting something different?

Hi Wanshan

Long time no “see” 😉

about your points:
1- You are right, both portuguese Ms will not have the modified flight deck because we will keep using the LYNX (no NH-90 for PN ) 🙁

2 – The parts you mention are under maintenance, same procedure as used on the Belgian F-930 when she left drydock (see pic posted several posts before)
As far as I know it’s the usual procedure before hand-over to foreign navies, now the equipment will be re-mounted as it gets fully revised 😉

(for example the 76mm gun is not the definitive, will be replaced still, so it was not even painted in “PN grey”, it is still on Dutch Navy grey)

The official handover cerimony is scheduled for 21th November

Cheers!

The (Still ) HrMs Van Nes leaves the drydock in Den Helder already in Portuguese-Grey and with PN Pennant

Two remarks:
1- No flight deck modification like the M’s going to Belgium (for larger NH90)
2- Apparently no radars on the Goalkeeper and main mast > not ready to go to Portugal (?) or getting something different?

The (Still ) HrMs Van Nes leaves the drydock in Den Helder already in Portuguese-Grey and with PN Pennant

Just a short update

the Van Nes will be renamed NRP Bartolomeu Dias (F-333)

the Van Galen will be renamed NRP D. Francisco de Almeida (F-334)

The Bartolomeu Dias will be transferred officially in late November but will remian in Dutch waters until March/April 2009, due to the shortage of training plantforms within the Dutch navy and will serve as basis for trainment of the crew of the 2nd ship.

the Van Nes will be re-christned NRP BARTOLOMEU DIAS
after the Portuguese discoverer of the Cape of Good Hope

http://www.answers.com/topic/bartolomeu-dias

from New Year Message of the PN Commander-in-Chief (sorry, in Portuguese only)
http://www.marinha.pt/extra/revista/ra_jan2008/pag_5.html

Neste ano, temos que preparar guarnições para as duas fragatas da futura classe “Bartolomeu Dias” cuja primeira unidade vamos aumentar ao efectivo em Dezembro

Hr.Ms. Van Nes terug
14-12-2007

Hr. Ms. Van Nes

Hr.Ms. Van Nes is op vrijdag 14 december om 11.00 uur teruggekeerd uit de Caraïben. Het afgelopen half jaar was zij stationsschip in de West, waar zij zich bezig hield met drugsbestrijding, kustwachttaken en humanitaire operaties. Eén van de hoogtepunten van de termijn in de Caraïben was de inzet in het noorden van Nicaragua na de verwoestende passage van orkaan Felix op 4 september. De West-termijn was de laatste reis voor het fregat. Hr.Ms. Van Nes zal gereed worden gemaakt voor verkoop aan Portugal. De overdracht zal in december 2008 plaatsvinden.

Hr.Ms. Van Nes wordt afgelost door Hr.Ms. Van Galen.

http://www.marine.nl/nieuws/?article=/nieuws/persberichten/2007/071214pb_vnes.html

The West period was the last travel for the fregat. Hr. m Van Nes will be made ready for sale to Portugal. The transfer will take place in December 2008

Also in Dutch Defense ministry news:
http://www.mindef.nl/actueel/nieuws/2007/12/20071214_terugkeervannes.aspx

humpff…putting too many mileage on her…:dev2: 😀

Great pics, thanks!!!! 😉

Wanshan,

Could you supply more information on those maneuvers?

What ships take part on it (heard that Walrus arrived to Willemstead last week too)
When did started and when finished
Where to get more info on it?

Many thanks…

It’s not an exercise but an ongoing op. Nessie was part of it earlier as well be had to leave it late August to partake in the PANAMAX 2007 exercise in september. However, prior to the exercise came to a conslusion on september 7, Nessie left to provide aid after hurrican Felix hit the middle American mainland (Nicaragua). She was joined by HrMr Pelikaan. By mid september she was back at Curacao, then Bonaire, to patrol with the ABC islands coast guard. Then in the last week on to the exercise VENHOL / Open Eyes, with the Venezuelan navy (VENezuela – HOLland). VENHOL involved both navies (frigates Mariscal Sucre and Van Nes), Open Eyes the coast guards of Venezuela (bark Oreama) and the Antilles (cutters Panter and Jaguar) . Then early oktober back to op Carib Venture.

Wanshan,

Could you supply more information on those maneuvers?

What ships take part on it (heard that Walrus arrived to Willemstead last week too)
When did started and when finished
Where to get more info on it?

Many thanks…

http://thetension.blogspot.com/2007/09/combat-camera-panamax-2-sept-2007.html

In october, she took part in the international anti-drugsoperation “Carib Venture”, which is led by CZMCARIB (subordinate to the American anti-drugsorganisation DIR JIATF South).