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Keeping warm in a Catalina

In 1985 I joined the team that brought Catalina GBLSC to the UK from South Africa. One thing that intrigued me was the amount of extraneous “plumbing” attached inside the cabin. I was astounded to discover that it was part of a heating system retro-fit from the sixties, which worked by feeding fuel from the aircraft’s wing tanks into a “boiler” fitted in the cabin…which was then set alight! This was something akin to a flying paraffin heater.

When the Catalina got to Barkston Heath, this pipework was all ripped out, but I would be interested to know if this crazy system was ever really used, or if anybody knows of any other such installations?:eek:

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By: Dxb Driver - 17th May 2011 at 19:06

Thanks Dave, brings back memories, great pictures, any more?

The Mildenhall show for me was a bitter sweet event(and hence I was not in the photo) as I was told the previous night my father had died in a car crash, whilst in the digs for the night.

Trying to remember some of the names in the photo.

Martin, Mick, Roy, Russell, Mr Rushen x 2, Mr Legg, Dizzy and John.Happy days, spent freezing our butts off at Barkston Heath, the experience moderated by the buxom Gwen at the pub 😀 The Chilli Con Carne was always excellent.

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By: David Legg - 16th May 2011 at 20:52

Ah happy days. Myself and a very good friend Mick Allen spent two weekends in the very cold hangar at Barkston heath painting the aircraft. John Cruikshank visited on the first saturday while we were still prepping the aircraft which included removing intakes for the cabin heating system and plating them over. John

As this thread has turned into something of a nostagia fest, these rather poor images may bring back some memories John. This is G-BLSC’s first re-paint when it became ‘JV928/Y’ in the freezing cold hangar at Barkston Heath in April 1985.

The first two show the primer coat and the third shows the overall white that went on before the green/grey camo’.

The last shot shows the Catalina at Mildenhall in 1985 on one of its first UK show appearances (Biggin Hill Air Fair was the first UK show). Not everyone had their black ‘babygros’ at this point! The two pilots up front are John Watts (left) and Dizzy Addicott on the right. Forum members Ex-Aviator and Beaufighter VI are both in the group whilst I am far right in the 2nd to back row – and still a current crew member.

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By: Nimrod 203 - 16th May 2011 at 16:02

Ah happy days. Myself and a very good friend Mick Allen spent two weekends in the very cold hangar at Barkston heath painting the aircraft. John Cruikshank visited on the first saturday while we were still prepping the aircraft which included removing intakes for the cabin heating system and plating them over. We susequently went on to paint the plain sailing Tigercat and also the Catalina for a second time. Mick is still very much in the plane painting business ,the Kennet Seafire being one of his finest .

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By: Mo Botwood - 16th May 2011 at 09:45

The Mark 3 Lancaster (at the School of Maritime Reconnaisance) had heating vents from over the manifolds and down the sides of the main fuselage.
Their crews could be recognised by the large vent in the seat of the pants area in their flying suits.
If one became cold, all you had to do was to enlarge the suit’s vent and back over the one from the heating system.
A few minutes of Mr Michelin inflation worked wonders!

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By: Ex-Aviator - 16th May 2011 at 09:34

The Nimrod had a tv crew on board. We linked up and stooged around Folkestone before heading for Manston. We also linked up with Arthur Gibson in his camera ship GFOTO for some air to air photography.

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By: pagen01 - 16th May 2011 at 08:57

From what I remember some clown wanted to do air to air with a Nimrod so we were airborne for at least another hour!

The picture of this appeared on the front cover of ‘Westwings’ the RAF St Mawgan station mag. Didn’t the Nimrod shepard the Cat from somewhere?

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By: Joe Petroni - 15th May 2011 at 20:08

A picture on the water too! Must be a rarity there Joe. In keeping with the thread…..looks cold.

Have quite a few pictures of the Catalina on water, but not with John and Paul. There was only a short period, when the aircraft operated with both of them before John’s accident. I think Paul was in RAFG for the first few seasons? But I guess you know that.

I think the picture was taken on Loch Neagh, Paul was doing his water landing checkout.

And yes, my memories of that period was; it was either cold or wet or both (but quite exciting on occasion :eek:).

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 19:43

A picture on the water too! Must be a rarity there Joe. In keeping with the thread…..looks cold.

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By: Joe Petroni - 15th May 2011 at 19:23

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n18/JohnManson/scan0001-1.jpg

John Watts on the left, Paul Warren-Wilson on the right.

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By: ZRX61 - 15th May 2011 at 19:18

Ah, the one I was thinking of is a former RCAF P51 pilot & general flier of all things warbirdish

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 18:59

No sir. John was killed in a Tornado collision in 1988. Doing his day job.

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By: ZRX61 - 15th May 2011 at 18:47

John was British. And hellishly proud of it , sir!

Was? must be a different John Watts & not the one I was talking to at Chino yesterday

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By: Joe Petroni - 15th May 2011 at 18:29

Can’t remember the name of that pub nearby but it was a welcome break between work.

http://houblon.co.uk/

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 18:24

John was British. And hellishly proud of it , sir!

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By: ZRX61 - 15th May 2011 at 18:16

Ho Ho. 🙂 This was 1985. John Watts parked his black Datsun 280Z (or something similar) outside the hangar at Barkston’ and when G-BLSC received its gloss white lower hull and wings sprayjob, plenty of that drifted outside and covered his car too!

The Canadian chap?

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 17:58

From what I remember some clown wanted to do air to air with a Nimrod so we were airborne for at least another hour!
Then we had to down some champagne, would rather have had a hot cup of tea.

Well at least I didn’t wear a red nose for the occasion!:dev2:

It’s been more than 25 years. Really good talking to you Pete. We should catch up soon.

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By: Beaufighter VI - 15th May 2011 at 17:49

From what I remember some clown wanted to do air to air with a Nimrod so we were airborne for at least another hour!
Then we had to down some champagne, would rather have had a hot cup of tea.

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 17:01

Hold on Pete. I’ve just remembered when we got to Manston we still had more than 1/3rd full tanks remaining! Did we really need to freeze all the way from Marseille?

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By: Ex-Aviator - 15th May 2011 at 11:19

[QUOTE=Beaufighter VI;1744569[/HTML]A good eight day adventure.[HTML][/HTML][/QUOTE]

I would’nt have missed it for the world Pete.

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By: pagen01 - 15th May 2011 at 10:07

Not sure it thay are the same type being discussed here, but Shackletons also had cabin heaters fed from the aircraft fuel system.

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