October 25, 2000 at 3:39 am
The claims of large NATO losses unfortunatelu are not true. The map that has appeared on the net with crash sites accrors serbia is just a wishfull thinking. Due to altitude limit of 15000 ft pvo was wery limited in its response. RVJ also only responded occasionaly.However some cover ups by nato are a “possibilty” if the lessons of vietnam are anything to goby.
But i can tell you that following information is 100% true.
(as a sceptic i dont belive in anything unless I have enough evidece to be 100% sure couse i was in Vj at the time i.. note: i dont realy care if you belive me or not)
1. 117 sufered mechanical failure, was forced down to 11.500ft just south of batajnica and was taken out by 250th rb unit using sa-3 and sa-6 system. As it was crushing the holes on fuselage sugest it was hit by one of PATs as well, posibly BOW.Stories of dog fights are untrue.
4 other maned aircraft were downed 2 f15 german or brithis tornado and f16 above sumadija.
Two 29s that crushed in bosnia near Kozluk a suburb of Zvornik city (myhome town) were in persuit of tornado bombers which retreated towards bosnia after droping their loads on sam positions in sabac.The were intercepted by pait of 29s from underground base in uzice (normaly it houses only orao and galeb but becouse of safe undermountain hangar all 29s were transfered there or in slatina just before war)after shoting one tornao (cnn showed picture on tv by mistake presenting it as 29. 29s are all of gry-light blue colour and true pictures were seen day after.only british torandos were dark greencolour-there is the evidence of western media objectivenes)they were taken on by f15 grou and downed both pilots escaped and were sumugled acros drina home.
2.There were raids made on airport near tuzla though nothig of significant equipment was there except few old or damaged us planes.It was taken by 4 low flying oraos who returned back to uzice.
3. PVO DOES NOT and NEVER DID operate s-300 get that in your heads.
4. All NATO pilots were recoverd before they could be reached
closest was near sumadija were oncaming police jeep was fired upon by helicopter recovering f15 pilot nobody was hurt.
5.NATO caused minimal-to none damage on army and navy, RVJ and PVO sufered moderate loses in aircraft and minimal loses in personel.
All together casualty rate were 550 Vj personel and more than two thousand civilians includin kosovo albanian konvoj.
5 29s were eliminated rest were decojs build by aromodeling association.Pictures are on net.
Fianly an oppinon of mine is, Nato hit civilian targets on purpose as they couldnt do enough demage on arny which sufered 3x less cost in damage then nato paid for operation. How ever the civilian cost was in exces of 35 bilion dollars.
I dont have problem with hiting those targrts after all thet is what the wars are about, winnig. I have problem with nato trying to denie it and presenting angelic face while critising other countries for doing the same. And last note, if people of kosovo have right on indipendence then so the people of republika serbska, krajina, Northern Irland, Bask, Cattalunia and corsika aswell as kurds in turkey or is it ok if nato nations
slaughter civilians to keep their soverginity over them .
ps: pardon my engish
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