L1011 Lifts

PSA’s lower lobe lounge was soon seen as a lost revenue opportunity, but could not be turned to pax space – as 747 upper lobe lounge was – because the nose gear was designed to collapse into it in a heavy landing.

From the Lockheed “L-1011-1 Features and Characteristics Technical Summary” on page 22 reads: “The below-deck loung replaces the forward cargo compartment and is reached from the main cabin by a compact two-flight stairway. Variations can include a bar plus up to 16 longe seats with ample walk-around space or up to 18 saleable seats“.

On the five L-1011’s that had below-deck lounges a unit called the Nose Landing Gear Pod, was installed just aft of the NLG. The Pod consisted of a fiberglass outer shell, internal bracing and energy absorbing material, which allowed passengers to be in the lounge during takeoff and landing. When lounges were deactivated the Pods were removed. The last L-1011 with a below deck lounge is the Flying Hospital and the lounge area has been turned it to the check-in area.

The first PSA aircraft(Shown at Farnborough in 1974)
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had a “lump” just aft of the main gear ment to absorb the inpact of a nose gear collapse . The seating area was just basicaly a box (the same size as my front room!) with seats in it. With no windows , just artificial lighting it must have been a very Claustrophobic ride! The PSA aircraft ended up with LTU as by738 said. They tried everything to get people to travel in them but ripped them out eventualy.

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PSA’s lower lobe lounge was soon seen as a lost revenue opportunity, but could not be turned to pax space – as 747 upper lobe lounge was – because the nose gear was designed to collapse into it in a heavy landing. LTU simply blocked the area off when they took them.
Tripestar! Ha! When LTU displaced -500 on DUS-LAX with MD11 they added an hour to the schedule, turning a 2-a/c rotation into 3, utterly screwing route economics.

Were all L1011’s like this ?
Wonder if anyone has photos, not many on airliners.net

Funny, I searched on Airliners.net and found 470 pages :rolleyes:

Nasty little things the were. They were only big enough for a person OR a cart so, once airborne, they would send one of the girls down and she would load the carts into them and send them up top. They had an interlock system to stop them working if a door was open. This worked fine when new but once a little bit of wear got into the system it caused no end of problems. One of which was that it was not permitted to be in the lower deck during landing! So what do you do if both lifts pack up in flight trapping a girl down there?
They didn’t have inner doors. To save you getting mangled up in the works as you rode down in them, there were two handles with switches on them on opposite walls so you had to hold them all the way down. I went down in one once but most of the other guys prefered to use the lower deck outside door. I am not a fan of the Tripestar but the lower deck galley was magic! It was about the size of my front room. If you got a job down there, usualy changing the potable water air compressor, you could hide down there all night!
They were refered to as cart lifts but the American crews some times would refer to them as elevators. You can imagine the alarm the tech log entry of “Both elevators jammed in flight” would cause!

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Remember the Tristars with downstairs lounges ? Never really took off (no pun intended). Think it was PSA, then LTU had some but removed the lounges I think.

Actually the picture is the mid cabin service center on the main cabin floor, not in the galley.

I stand corrected.

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sorry bit off subject but if you watch the movie “executive decission” with halle berry they use them on there. ( great film to watch)

Of course, that is a 747-200 though, with a 747-400 cockpit. That plane was a mish mash of various type inside. lol

Got the DVD, great film.

sorry bit off subject but if you watch the movie “executive decission” with halle berry they use them on there. ( great film to watch)

Indeed a great film but one that will proberly never be shown on tv again.

sorry bit off subject but if you watch the movie “executive decission” with halle berry they use them on there. ( great film to watch)

One of my tutors at college used to fly on the tristar as cabin crew with BA the elevators had a nasty habit of not working when they were needed lol

Also if i remember correct Caledonian’s L1011’s had about 5 or 6 toliets at the rear.

The galleys were on the lower deck, ie: below the cabin floor, so the elevators were used to send the trolleys between the galley and the cabin.

Just to clarify that photograph isn’t ‘inside’ the elevators but taken from the galley looking at the elevator doors.

1L.

Actually the picture is the mid cabin service center on the main cabin floor, not in the galley.

Galley lifts were standard on all L-1011’s except the L-1011-500’s. The lifts provided access to the below floor galley, for both serving carts and crew. Only one cart or one person could use the lift at a time, as they were not very large inside. They are powered by electric motors and are chain driven.

British Airways modified 6 of their L-1011-200’s by removing the below floor galley and extending the forward cargo compartment and relocating the galleys on the main cabin floor.

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Amazing resource yaknow 😉

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Were all L1011’s like this ?
Wonder if anyone has photos, not many on airliners.net

I believe so.

Were all L1011’s like this ?
Wonder if anyone has photos, not many on airliners.net

The galleys were on the lower deck, ie: below the cabin floor, so the elevators were used to send the trolleys between the galley and the cabin.

Just to clarify that photograph isn’t ‘inside’ the elevators but taken from the galley looking at the elevator doors.

1L.

The L1011 had galleys in the belly.

The lifts were for moving the food carts up and down.