lanc ? crash photo any i/d ?

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Hi All,
thanks all for the input, it has satisfied my mind, for some reason the photo on e bay intrigued me.
proves my a/c i/d needs a bit of brushing up, 😀
I must be currently about A/A gunner standard…… 😀
cheers
jerry

Good footage of El Adam on disco wings ‘Aviation Archive’ last night showing Beverleys, Britannias, Comets, Pioneers (single & twin) and Whirlwinds

That’s a fair conclusion if I ever saw one ????

A later shot with vertical stabiliser and engine now missing.

Mark

Photo courtesy: Reinhart Mazur

My money is on lady be good – it was visited by numerous individuals over the years before recovery and ‘pulled about a bit’. There is a pic in circulation taken from a Vulcun I believe as it flew over – you can see the shadow over the wreck!

Was it one of you guys that wen the auction?

It sure is a B-24 and “Lady Be good” would fit the bill nicely. If there are other B-24’s about in this condition it would have been known about the warbird community.

Nice pic.

Cees

Before the Gadhafi regime, the ‘Lady be good’ was a marker point for RAF ‘NavEx’ and rendezvous for special ground forces replenishment on training exercises.

The RAF were still installed at El Adam.

Mark

I have changed my mind.

If this photo was taken from an RAF aircraft in 1968/69 than I believe it is the ‘Lady be Good’.

Comparing on site shots from 1961 with earlier photographs, it had already lost propellers to scrap or souvenir hunters then.

A further shot taken clearly some many years after 1961 but before removal to display shows massive degrading of the structure including a missing port vertical stabiliser and loss of engines.

Mark

Who knows? 213 Squadron was operational with Canberra B(I) 6 aircraft from March 1956 until disbandment in December 1969 stationed at Aalhorn and then Bruggen.

Regards,

kev35

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Hi All,
Thanks for the input, seems it’s a B-24 then, but identity not to sure due to the wreckage shape/parts.
If it isn’t lady be good maybe the is another one out there waiting to be found ?
One more question, would 213Sq have been flying over where lady be good was in the late 60’s ? ( seller reckons maybe 68/69 ? )
Cheers
Jerry

Missing vertical stabiliser.

May be a trick of the light as with the recent Seafire on the load-loader in transit.

Mark

This must be Lady be Good.
Color pictures on this German website: http://www.tlc-exped.net/LadybeGood.html

I also found a picture (below) on a website, showing the state she is in nowadays. She is now on “display” in Tobruk, Libya.

Tillerman.

I too think this is a B24, I’ve taken the liberty of trying to clean the image up a little. The oval shaped engine cowling on the port side outer coupled with the cockpit shape and what appears to be a turret just to the rear makes me believe this to be a B24.

I’m convinced it’s a B24,the fuselage appears to have the Lib’s very deep section and the windshield looks distinctively Lib too. It’s also worth noting that the fuselage has broken in the same places as Lib fuselages tended to do in a belly landing.

How about an early Shackleton?

The high set tail would fit, also the broader appearance of the fuselage at the centre section when compared to a Lanc or Hali.

My first reaction was ‘Lady Be Good’ and I have number of images including several close up originals.

‘Lady be Good’ however in my view deteriorated substantially to beyond the condition in the ebay image and still carried at least three engines and both vertical stabilisers.

In 1961 the both wings extended fully to undamaged tips, unlike the ebay image.

Mark

Not sure it could be Lady Be Good, look at the photo on http://www.qmfound.com/lady_be_good_b-24_bomber_recovery.htm it seems that the tail was at 45 degrees to the rest of the fuselage and in the eBay pic it’s almost straight.

You`re right… see this pic of ‘Lady be good’:

http://376hbgva.com/images/aircraft/ladybegood/lbg02.jpg

The inner engines aren`t missing, in difference to the one on Ebay…

Kesha

Hmmm…Halifax?

B-24 “Lady Be Good”

This is ‘Lady Be Good”, B-24 Bomber & crew lost in Libyan Desert in 1943,
found 1958:

http://www.qmfound.com/lady_be_good_b-24_bomber_recovery.htm

Kesha