Lancaster B.X KB976

The was a court case involving the IAG about three years ago but the case wasn’t successful for the prosecution . Therefore the machines in question are the property still of IAG . The ‘creditors’ isn’t a factor that enters into it.

I have no involvement or ‘inside’ information on the aircraft stored at Sandfoft. But form memory is it not the case that the Imperial Group went bust with large debits? If so the ownership of their assets, ie the aircaft become property of the creditors. This would account for their sorry state as nobody is going to work on them untill ownership can be proven. If my understanding is correct then any future purchaser should make them slelves known to the creditors, otherwise they will end up as pots and pans.

DOUGHNUT

ps I hope YAK 11 FAN was joking about using Duxfords Shackleton wings to rebuild the Lincoln, the only place for those wings is bolted either side of the Shackleton’s fuslage.

It is quite amazing that we go to extreme lengths to salvage aircraft for deep water or from Russian bogs but we will allow valueble relics in our own backyards to rot…true it all comes down to money…
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Thanks for the pictures David..at least they have not been processed into pots and pans yet!!

Thats as I remember North Weald some years ago.

For those that never saw it, there was a huge amount of material behind the hangars. Imperial bought most of it to start their collection. The DC3 got sold and is now back again!

David raises an important point – MONEY – I am sure something could be done with this lot, if you have the money to pay for it!

Peter – The aeroplanes cost a large sum of money. They are not lightly to give them away or even sell them cheap. Having said that the DC-3 they bought in the group was sold for use in Band of Brothers so maybe there is some hope.

this is a crying shame

These pics just sicken me to no end! Why cant they just sell or give away this stuff if they do not want it anymore!!

Lincoln outboard wing sections in Queen Mary trailer.

As you can see the wing part isn’t really a problem !

Lincoln wing centre section

Maybe the IWM can donate their Shackleton wings when they section their aircraft, all we’ll need then is the Lincoln to go with it

The whole of the Lincoln used to be behind the Hangar at North Weald, with the exception of the nose. As I remember, there was the nose of KB944, plus the rear of KB976 as well as some other odds and sods as well.

AFAIK all bar the nose of the Lincoln should be at Sandtoft, minus engines and props.

Bruce

Originally posted by Eddie
Can be done at Hendon already 😉 Or isn’t that what you mean 😀

Yuk!!

I think that it would be best to restore the “pile of bits” as a Lincoln, as it’s FAR rarer…

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Good point , here’s a nice line up -Lanc , York , Linc and Shack !!

Can be done at Hendon already 😉 Or isn’t that what you mean 😀

I think that it would be best to restore the “pile of bits” as a Lincoln, as it’s FAR rarer…

Originally posted by Eddie
Ah, sorry for ruining your fun 😉 😀

Imagine what the crew at Elvington would be able to do with the pile of Linc/Lanc bits that are lying around ?? , a Lanc and a Halibag in the same hangar – that would be worth seeing.

Ah, sorry for ruining your fun 😉 😀

Originally posted by Eddie
I don’t think it’s the same situation really. I think you could do a “no compromises” restoration incorporating parts from a Shackleton, if they were modified to Lincoln specification. There are (or were in 1991) clearly large sections of the Lincoln extant, and they were of an identifiable airframe. If the Lincoln with Shackleton wings would be fake, then so’s PA474 as it has York wings 😉

I think peoples issue with the Halifax is that it has things like a wooden framed nose, a wooden tailplane, fibreglass props, mocked up undercarriage and so on.

Fair point , I was really just trying to see if any of the critics of the Halifax would take the bait 😀 😀

I don’t think it’s the same situation really. I think you could do a “no compromises” restoration incorporating parts from a Shackleton, if they were modified to Lincoln specification. There are (or were in 1991) clearly large sections of the Lincoln extant, and they were of an identifiable airframe. If the Lincoln with Shackleton wings would be fake, then so’s PA474 as it has York wings 😉

I think peoples issue with the Halifax is that it has things like a wooden framed nose, a wooden tailplane, fibreglass props, mocked up undercarriage and so on.

Originally posted by British Canuck
Very interesting pictures indeed..

When did the Lincoln get dissembled? Did the wings survive or was it only the fuselage that was kept?

I think the whole Lincoln was lying behind the Aces High Hangar in bits , anybody have any photo’s??

Originally posted by Eddie
If the wings were scrapped, I daresay you could acquire a set of Shack wings from “somewhere” *cough* and mod them to the Lincoln spec.

To some on this Forum that would make it a fake aeroplane same as the Elvington Halifax 🙁 🙁 Sounds fine to me though , better that than a pile of mouldering scrap:) 🙂

If the wings were scrapped, I daresay you could acquire a set of Shack wings from “somewhere” *cough* and mod them to the Lincoln spec.

Very interesting pictures indeed..

When did the Lincoln get dissembled? Did the wings survive or was it only the fuselage that was kept?