lancaster bomber crash sites.

No worries.
Der

Absolutely, and Ive no argument with that at all. Did come as a bit of a surprise though when I was reading through it-not having looked at the date-and there was a post from my old mate Ageorge who is no longer with us.

Sorry Der : fully understand your sentiments , please accept my apologies for any hurt resulting from my foot-in-mouth posting.

hi weve been on 4 lanc wrecks 2 of which were canadians 419 sqds kb745 and kb785, 785 has now a memorial in the center of sedgefield that we helped with, most of the crews relitives were there for the unvieling . 745 was differant we found the site a week before the sunderland airshow a long time past? at the air show was a guy fred chatwinn rcaf displaying his photos as part of a bomber command display with his aircaft kb745 story goes that he was unable to fly this last mission as w/o to the sub penns in bergen, the aircraft crashed on return to base but was told only that it cashed in the scottish highlands, two weeks later this 70+ year old canadian was standing on the wreck site 2,000 feet up the cheviot, conditions were typical for the cheviots thick fog we climbed a little to high and had to cut back down were we came across some scree in the middle of this was the carcuss of freds radio he full filled his dream that day in saying goodbye to his mates

Sure he would have Kev.

I was at the Cromford Steam Rally a few weekends ago with my Fiance’s Dad and we saw a David Brown and Fordson tractors and I thought Alastair would have loved this.

Regards,

kev35

Absolutely, and Ive no argument with that at all. Did come as a bit of a surprise though when I was reading through it-not having looked at the date-and there was a post from my old mate Ageorge who is no longer with us.

Can we please be a bit careful about resurrecting old threads like this without any warning.

Maybe similar to an old thread Der, but surely the opportunity exists for new contributions and many newer contributors to chip in, adding differing, different and fresh views that may be worth a wider airing, and the various web-site url’s are invaluable, especially if one hasn’t been aware of them prior to the posting ; indeed I’ve found a few of interest tonight.

Some of the younger, newer viewers might be unaware of the implications of visiting such sites, and the legal aspect of recovering debris, and the suitable reminders will not go amiss.

I would hope though that the forum members and perhaps non-members looking in anonymously from time to time would respect the rules, but I fear it would be rather more difficult to restrain those others hellbent on selfish scavenging for their own ends 🙁

Can we please be a bit careful about resurrecting old threads like this without any warning.

I’ve got a few Lancasters on my site, www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk.

I’ve been to the crash site of Lancaster KB993, a very sad and lonely place, it wasn’t far off clearing the summit either. It must have been a terrible impact to reduce such a large airframe into such tiny fragments, it must have been a thankless task trying to find the crew afterwards, I don’t know how they did. A Canadian crew too, lost 10 days after the wars end, what a tragedy.
It’s interesting to compare it to the nearby C-47, I gather it came down in relatively one piece but the crew were killed by a loose jeep that shot forward on impact, they were found by an RAF officer on leave taking a hiking trip with his fiance. The airframe was pushed into a gulley afterwards, but large pieces, still in olive drab, remain. The cockpit roof is easily identifiable, in fact if you want to get up to the Lancaster site, go via the gulley, the first thing you come across is an engine, but you constantly encounter sections on the way up, another sad place.

I’ve got a few Lancasters on my site, www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk.

You’re right, it covers the Dark Peak area of the Peak District, to the West of Sheffield.

Lancaster bomber crash sites

I don’t think that book would be of intrest to me Steve, the title suggests the Derbyshire Pennines or Scotland. thanks anyway.:confused::confused::confused:

Anyone interested in this area should really try the ‘Dark Peaks’ books by Ron Collier –

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Peak-Aircraft-Wrecks-Vol/dp/0850524571/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220000531&sr=8-7

Fantastic reading!

Steve

lancaster bomber crash sites

I am surprised that there is no web site concerning aircraft crashes in Lincolnshire, being well known as bomber county. if any one knows of such a site please let me know, I am particularly interested in a Lancaster crash at a place called the loft’s near Scambelsby, I believe it was in collision with another aircraft while returning from a raid in the early hours of a winters morning, in either 43 or 44. Thanks guys.

Well, I would start with applying for a licence and then bring all the substantial wreckage in from the cold. Properly preserved and documented put on display it serves as a better memorial to the crews than just lying there and within fifty years or so it has all corroded into blue dust.

Apart from that some parts can be used for patterns to make new parts for restorations to bring back some extinct aircraft back.

The Albacore was restored using such wreckage, the Bararcuda is next in line. And others will follow.

But, the most important thing is to treat these sites with the utmost respect.

Just my opinion of course, 🙂

Cheers

Cees

In the UK, the remains of all aircraft which have crashed in military service (whether on land or at sea) are protected by the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986. It is an offence under that Act to tamper with, damage, move or unearth the remains unless the Secretary of State has issued a Licence authorising those things to be done and they are done in accordance with the conditions of the licence.

Recently in Norway a British couple were stopped and arrested at customs attempting to leave the country with a van load of WW2 aircraft parts recovered from a crash site which they did not have permission to recover.

Take only photographs, leave only footprints.

I wonder if there is any problem with some of these wrecks being recovered for use in a rebuild such as the stirling project.

I noticed a fair bit of halibag wreckage as well Cees, tempting isn’t it?:diablo:

Peter,

Well, it made my brain started to go into overdrive (suppose…. etc. etc.)
😉

Also a lot of Stirling remains that could be useful for a certain reconstrucion project?

Cheers

Cees

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Glad to know people have heard of the site and use the database.

Of course, it was well publicised online. Perhaps once your links page is activated we could exchange links? 🙂

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This one covers crashes in Scotland & NE England and has searchable database
http://www.acia.co.uk/

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Glad to know people have heard of the site and use the database.