Lancaster KB 965 Arctic wreck site photos

I am not sure exactly when they were converted to metal but interestingly our lancaster FM159 had fabric elevators whereas FM212 and FM213 had metal covered ones..

Anything useful?

There will be a lot of smaller parts which would be very useful to restorations – or at least could be used as patterns.

It appears that this particular Lancaster had fabric covered elevators. They metal-covered British Lanc elevators quite early on due to problems which appeared (leading to the loss of an aircraft) during testing. Strange that the Canadians didn’t follow suit with theirs as a matter of course.

Anon.

Fins and rudders.. possibly and rear turret…?

Just out of curiosity and I’m not advocating a raiding party….

Is there anything there that would be useful in a Lancaster rebuild?

War grave?

It’s not quite a War Grave, is it? I don’t think they were at war.

The crew have a burial site but, due to the catastrophic nature of the impact the recovery people would probably have been unable to recover all of their remains at the time and therefore annexed the whole area as a grave site.

It’s a very interesting site all the same. Engine and turret enthusiasts will be getting very excited at some of the parts still extant.

I can forsee that within a few years the Canadian government will organise a clean-up of the site with a suitable memorial and display of wreckage somewhere. The site would be a useful supply of parts for restorations and this, surely, is a fitting way to immortalise those who lost their lives in this tragedy whilst ensuring that the stuff doesn’t end up going for scrap or being pilfered.

Anon.

Looks like a fun place to be posted.

Why is it classed as a war grave if the crew are no longer in the wreckage and buried (?) nearby? Is it an ‘official’ grave or just treated as such by the locals out of respect?

DS

But what about the rest peter thats twisted and bent it’s scrap im afraid.
There is nothing more than i would like to see than a squadron of lancs taking on duxford for the flying legends you have one in canada and possibly another just jane to the sky here in the uk were in my opinion were they belong!
While your at it dig out the rest, but it may happen but i won’t hold my breath.
I like these aircraft but a time comes when scrap is just that. unless you can work wonders can you peter?

It may just be scrap (to some) but it is also history, as it is, where it is. It is also a memorial to those who died and is obviously treated as such by those in the immediate area. Just because it is unlikely to appear at Legends or Oshkosh does not (in my humble opinion) mean that it needs to be stripped of anything remotely collectable or saleable and the rest skipped.

ah ok he had me confused there…

I think piston power may mean canopy as in something to cover the wreckage, not cockpit canopy ?

canopy I wanted for which one??

Which one?

Kb965 the one in the photo.

Which one?

No it cannot be touched like it said on the original post on the other forum.

But can you protect it like the canopy you wanted for the other one?

No it cannot be touched like it said on the original post on the other forum.

. It is considered a war grave your correct there. So you can’t touch it peter or can you with help?

But what about the rest peter thats twisted and bent it’s scrap im afraid.

There is nothing more than i would like to see than a squadron of lancs taking on duxford for the flying legends you have one in canada and possibly another just jane to the sky here in the uk were in my opinion were they belong!

While your at it dig out the rest, but it may happen but i won’t hold my breath.

I like these aircraft but a time comes when scrap is just that. unless you can work wonders can you peter?

Every part can be useful and tells a story wether it is useable to repair an intact example or can be combined to form a fitting display. It is considered a war grave your correct there..

Sorry but if your so against historic aircraft remains then maybe this isn’t the forum for you? Just a thought.

No peter im not, is this not a war grave? im not sure if you can touch it?

But as it sits it’s scrap unless you do something with it similar to i said in the other post.

Plenty in museums to look at & you have got the flying example in your homeland just like we have.

Come on peter what do you want to do with most of this lot just lock it away or preserve it or make something of it? the heavily bent and twisted is just scrap is it not?

Sorry but if your so against historic aircraft remains then maybe this isn’t the forum for you? Just a thought.

Yes more lancaster scrap but im sure there is more parts available there than another i commented on.!

Before you lot start to sulk with my comments that engine looks like parts available for reserection plus many more so crack on preserve them.!

The cold weather looks like they have lasted much longer?