October 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I have been asked by the owner of these items to assist him in finding out what these undercarrige legs and struts are from. His father used to buy bits and bobs from government auctions back in late 1950’s and 60’s But they could be from almost anything. No time to check for numbers unfortunately.
Over to you, the experts! 🙂




By: Denis - 18th October 2011 at 06:53
Many thanks for the confirmation and links Vega ECM.
By: Vega ECM - 17th October 2011 at 22:54
The single legs certainly seems to be Typhoon, check out for a comparison;-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shnuggy/3122658368/
It’s a 4 bolt axle attachment which again is typically Hawker.
The Tempest has a very different shock absorber design;-
http://www.hawkertempest.se/Undercarriage.htm
The twin strut, from the attachment pin size of about 20mm, assuming S98 pins (typical for the time) and a landing reaction factor of 2 (again typical for the time) then it equates to a 10 – 20 Ton MTOW – Prefect for Wimpy ….. and maybe some more in this weight class.
By: Denis - 17th October 2011 at 21:09
This small 3/4 inch wide, 4 inch long label was attached to the double units.
TYPE N0 (BLANK) DRAWING N0 40650 SERIAL N0 (BLANK)
XXXXXX (scratched out) OLEO PNEUMATIC STRUT
This strut contains 1.69 pints of DTD (585 stamped by hand tool) oil when strut is fully extended and carrying no load.
Air pressure should be 665 LBS/Sq In. charge with dry air only. Replace Valve Cap.
By: pagen01 - 17th October 2011 at 20:57
How in the name of sanity did you come up with Whirlwind?!:confused:
By: Firebex - 17th October 2011 at 20:41
PM’s clear
Got blitzed by a few people retract that last post the bottom end etc very like Whirlwind but top end does not quite look right as Whirly has casing enclosed at top half.But is it solid or is it a fairing we are trying to establish.
Numbers would greatly help.
Mike E
By: Denis - 17th October 2011 at 20:29
So, we have Wellington confirmed and Hawker Typhoon for the singleton struts.
Now possible Whirwind for the braced units too. Cant beat this forum for ‘identify this’ posts:)
By: Denis - 17th October 2011 at 20:25
Clear your PM’s firebex! 🙂
By: Firebex - 17th October 2011 at 19:47
Please Sir !!!! Baggsy First
dare I say the twin units with the cross brace do look vaguely like dare I say it Westland Whirlwind .He says mouth salivating profusely !!!!!!!
I may be wrong but any chance of some further detail pictures and any visible numbers ?? And may one have a look at these beast s in the flesh ????
Mike E
By: H.M.S Vulture - 17th October 2011 at 19:31
Yep,
Welington & Typhoon
By: Jayce - 17th October 2011 at 18:54
The upper oleos look like Typhoon to me, but the lower is different… or am I thinking of Tempest?
I’m not 100% but I’m pretty sure they’re Typhoon.
By: Denis - 17th October 2011 at 17:56
Thank you all very much.
Just the single oleos left to ident if anybody has clues.
The owner of these items would part with them if they are useful to a museum or rebuild (static) if possible.
By: wieesso - 17th October 2011 at 11:58
By jove, give that man a biscuit!
All the details, inc brake pipes and axle plates, etc certainly look right for Wimpey,http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason2/wellington/images/wellington_30_of_42.jpg
http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason2/wellington/images/wellington_31_of_42.jpg
They don’t look that tall in the pics.
Agreed!
By: pagen01 - 17th October 2011 at 08:48
Definitely not Oxford, http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/301-400/walk340_Airspeed_Oxford/images_Richard_Eglen/Oxford.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/301-400/walk340_Airspeed_Oxford/walk340.htm&usg=__j6ugSxJIffVvW-kW5Im_ldRg7zs=&h=524&w=750&sz=62&hl=en&start=2&zoom=1&tbnid=oRS9tQWH47n7nM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=141&ei=_dubTrrKEc_sObCptIkK&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dairspeed%2Boxford%2Bwalkaround%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1T4ACAW_enGB337GB337%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1
The cross bracing seems quite common for the time.
4ft doesn’t sound much but by the time the oleos are pumped up and the wheels fitted, combined with the fact that the legs look quite short on a Wimpey, there’s no doubt in my mind about them being Wellington,
By: richw_82 - 17th October 2011 at 00:09
Looking at photo of Oxford legs here:
http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/pages/lakedistrict/lakesat486.htm
Its a bit different and a little on the small side. Good spot for the cross bracing though!
By: OHOPE - 16th October 2011 at 23:34
For the cross braced units , how about Oxfords ?
By: Denis - 16th October 2011 at 22:45
These items were mentioned while out on other business today. I unfortunately had no means of measuring or taking notes of any numbers that may have been under the clag and corrosion.
So best estimate is about 3 and a half to 4 feet tall…sorry !
By: pagen01 - 16th October 2011 at 22:21
Yep plus oleos will be compressed (rear examples fully so by the looks), on Wimpeys the axle supports actually bolt to the squarish ‘pads’ that you see at the bottom.
Looking at pictures of Wellingtons/Vikings/Valettas, the undercarriage legs don’t appear to be that tall anyway.
By: richw_82 - 16th October 2011 at 22:17
The leg’s going to look smaller, as the axle end is on the floor which messes with your perception of it. Normally there’s a wheel or a hub on there and it starts about a foot and a half higher.
My bet is still Wellington.
By: pagen01 - 16th October 2011 at 22:07
How tall are the twin legs Denis?
All the fittings down to the nuts & bolts are right for Wellington, but kinda see what Hidenburg is saying.
By: Denis - 16th October 2011 at 22:03
Watching these answers come in, keep it up:)