May 7, 2013 at 10:53 am
Found this in the local news very interesting read.
By: David_Kavangh - 10th May 2013 at 15:55
Couldn’t make Aces High tomorrow, unfortunately, due to being in Spain. Went 5 years ago for the 65th when Les Munro and others were there then. He said then he would never make the trip from NZ again. So I guess he may well be there in another 5 yrs!
By: adrian_gray - 10th May 2013 at 15:32
Always thought it rather appropriate that the last 3 Dambusters should be a Brit, an Antipodean and a North American.
If all has gone well, they should be on these shores right now, seeing as they are doing a signing at Aces High tomorrow!
Adrian
(tickets booked!)
By: Bombgone - 10th May 2013 at 12:54
Found this excellent Documentary on Youtube. Contains rare footage of the aftermath.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p4N_t3bDKY&list=HL1368182788
By: David_Kavangh - 10th May 2013 at 12:22
Recent Interview with Fred Sutherland on Canadian TV here
By: David_Kavangh - 8th May 2013 at 10:37
Always thought it rather appropriate that the last 3 Dambusters should be a Brit, an Antipodean and a North American.
(The newspaper article does make clear that there are 3 survivors and that Johnny is the last British)
By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 10:36
This from Radio 2s details of their day devoted to the Dambusters:
“. Iām especially glad that Dambusters pilot Les Munro and bomb-aimer George ‘Johnnie’ Johnson will be a part of it.ā
There will be special messages from Dambusters pilot Les Munro and bomb-aimer George ‘Johnnie’ Johnson, both aged 93 and two of just three remaining veterans from the raid.”
By: Bombgone - 8th May 2013 at 10:29
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I was going to suggest amending the thread title as, as far as I am aware, both Les Munro and Fred Sutherland are still alive in New Zealand and Canada respectively, so Johnny still has two fellow survivors.[/QUOTE]
Hello Charlie. Interesting point. Looks like the press could have got it wrong again.:apologetic:
By: charliehunt - 8th May 2013 at 09:26
Thank you posart. I remembered that the Sorpe was attacked differently, but had not realised the parametres of height and speed were different. I will amend my earlier post.
I was going to suggest amending the thread title as, as far as I am aware, both Les Munro and Fred Sutherland are still alive in New Zealand and Canada respectively, so Johnny still has two fellow survivors.
By: posart - 8th May 2013 at 09:18
Yes, indeed – but at that height and speed they were outside the parametres for a “hit” weren’t they?
Charlie, the method of attack against the Sorpe was different from that of the Mohne and Eder. They were briefed to fly down the length of the dam itself and drop the Upkeep as close to the centre as possible, without needing to bounce or spin it. Johnny told me that the aim was to drop it as low and as slow as possible whilst lining up the port outer so that it was over the crest of the dam.
By: AlanR - 7th May 2013 at 18:32
Still an amazing story. I didn’t realize how little notice they had of their target.
Although practising over reservoirs must have given them an inkling ?
By: David_Kavangh - 7th May 2013 at 17:45
Maybe of interest.
http://www.musicweek.com/news/read/radio-2-to-mark-dambusters-anniversary/054456
By: charliehunt - 7th May 2013 at 11:37
I think most of us who mercifully have never had the experience of “going to war”, cannot understand are the feelings and emotions of those who participated. Of course they varied from crew member to crew member but for most it was a job they had to do and so they got on with it. And most were pragmatic about it afterwards. In their shoes how would we have felt? We can never know.
By: Bombgone - 7th May 2013 at 11:28
The thing I find most incredible with the Dambusters and all the other raids is. Aeroplane technology was still in its infancy at this time. So even flying was dangerous. But carrying high explosives to a target. Plus the high risk of been shot at. And most knew before going on a mission they may never return. They still went for it all the same. I salute them all.
By: charliehunt - 7th May 2013 at 11:06
Yes, indeed they were.
By: trumper - 7th May 2013 at 11:04
Brave brave men