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Last flight of a Victor

So when should it be recorded. The date of the last delivery flight or the infamous hop at Bruntingthorpe. Does that classify as a flight?

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By: Wrench - 25th July 2015 at 22:30

Is it a B2 at Goose? What year is that Wrench?

It is indeed, Goose Bay 1965.

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By: Robbo - 25th July 2015 at 15:55

Its actually directly head on that Victors look most impressive, menacing is probably the better phrase.

Agreed, it’s certainly got presence.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3019/5769656109_4e9d881df9_b.jpgBruntingthorpe 28/05/2011 #05 by Rob Leigh, on Flickr

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2061/5774139314_5a3aa4b1ba_b.jpgBruntingthorpe 28/05/2011 #17 by Rob Leigh, on Flickr

Here’s a head to head comparison

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3410/5778216960_0f272e54da_b.jpgBruntingthorpe 28/05/2011 #27 by Rob Leigh, on Flickr

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By: Piston - 25th July 2015 at 11:57

One from the front and one from the back, bonus points if you can figure out where these were taken.

http://lupin.ice-9.co.uk/images/victorFront.jpg

http://lupin.ice-9.co.uk/images/victorRear.jpg

Is it a B2 at Goose? What year is that Wrench?

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By: Robbiesmurf - 25th July 2015 at 11:05

Shame the B1K at Duxford is such a state – probably got more FI left, Sapphires ( J65 ) may be better supported by OEM………..

It has suffered a fair bit of corrosion due to being stood outside for so long. Are the structural components available? There have been so many scrapped since their retirement.

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By: Robbiesmurf - 25th July 2015 at 11:03

Goose Bay

Indeed, snow………………….

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By: Trenchardbrat - 25th July 2015 at 09:59

Goose Bay

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By: JagRigger - 25th July 2015 at 09:27

Shame the B1K at Duxford is such a state – probably got more FI left, Sapphires ( J65 ) may be better supported by OEM………..

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By: Robbiesmurf - 25th July 2015 at 07:26

Wittering?

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By: Wrench - 24th July 2015 at 22:06

Its actually directly head on that Victors look most impressive, menacing is probably the better phrase.

One from the front and one from the back, bonus points if you can figure out where these were taken.

http://lupin.ice-9.co.uk/images/victorFront.jpg

http://lupin.ice-9.co.uk/images/victorRear.jpg

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By: Robbiesmurf - 24th July 2015 at 18:49

Leave the two Victors to the owners to do as they wish with them a great aircraft I spent 12 years with them at Marham and it was the Highlight of my career to fly in all the versions of the tankers especially the K2and the crew chiefs seat put in at Woodford for those who had to fly with them the best seat in the aircraft

The crew chiefs seat, always known as the sixth seat. I remember when they were modding the a/c to a four man crew, the question arose over the scheduled servicing. “Should we still call the sixth seat,the sixth seat or should it be annotated as the fifth seat”? I left shortly after that. I assume it remained the same…

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By: Trenchardbrat - 24th July 2015 at 17:31

Thanks for the advice I don’t dream about aircraft being made flyable especially the Victor as it came good at Widewake for the Falklands Operation Corporate Task and Bahrain for Operation Granby the only RAF aircraft too archive a 100% tasks carried out they never let the Tornadoes etc down

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By: nostalgair2 - 24th July 2015 at 15:46

Surely it is XM715 There is nothing left at Woodford So why all this thought of returning one to fly both 231and 715 are privately owned and I cannot see them supporting the idea any case who would undertake the task I understand that there is no hangar space at either location. Leave the two Victors to the owners to do as they wish with them a great aircraft I spent 12 years with them at Marham and it was the Highlight of my career to fly in all the versions of the tankers especially the K2and the crew chiefs seat put in at Woodford for those who had to fly with them the best seat in the aircraft

Ok Ok, keep your hat on! we are merely dreaming, but please remember this…. a little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men!

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By: Trenchardbrat - 24th July 2015 at 15:32

Surely it is XM715 There is nothing left at Woodford So why all this thought of returning one to fly both 231and 715 are privately owned and I cannot see them supporting the idea any case who would undertake the task I understand that there is no hangar space at either location. Leave the two Victors to the owners to do as they wish with them a great aircraft I spent 12 years with them at Marham and it was the Highlight of my career to fly in all the versions of the tankers especially the K2and the crew chiefs seat put in at Woodford for those who had to fly with them the best seat in the aircraft

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By: Robbiesmurf - 24th July 2015 at 13:20

Stationary was the problem, not moving.

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By: thegypsy - 24th July 2015 at 12:59

I wonder what that was like to land in a gusty strong crosswind?

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By: nostalgair2 - 24th July 2015 at 12:08

Even now, 60+ years later, it looks futuristic and something straight from Science Fiction.
http://www.sacarr.co.uk/warbirds/pics/victor15.jpg

Thank you!!! that is precisely what i was thinking of!

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By: Arabella-Cox - 24th July 2015 at 12:01

Its actually directly head on that Victors look most impressive, menacing is probably the better phrase.

Even now, 60+ years later, it looks futuristic and something straight from Science Fiction.
http://www.sacarr.co.uk/warbirds/pics/victor15.jpg

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By: Robbiesmurf - 24th July 2015 at 11:59

The VC10 has a better intake than the Victor. The intakes, especially the outboard are too small on the Victor. We were restricted when running both engines on one side. Running the inboard engine to max or slam checks, then the outboard had to run at 85% at least. Stress/strain testing by RR in the early ’80’s revealed the strain on the zero stages was too great. After that we were only allowed to groud-run with the nose directly into wind and take-offs were a rolling acceleration of the engines. I agree with you on the ‘Vicky Swish’ their only restriction now is the amount of noise they make…

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By: TonyT - 24th July 2015 at 11:11

Whether it’s called a hop or whatever, the Victor flew under it’s own power. The pressure over the wing was less than the pressure under the wing and Bernoulli’s theory was exercised! Aviation was committed. It flew. That was the last flight. Intentional or not. Paperwork or not. It flew due to thrust and and lift overcoming drag and weight. Then it landed. A HP/BAe Victor has not flown since.

Agreed, otherwise we would have to rewrite history and put the Wright brothers down as a short hop..

Surprised on the Conway comments as in the VC 10 it was pretty much bullet proof.

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By: nostalgair2 - 24th July 2015 at 10:35

Reminds me of a time when i visited wodford when the Nimrod 2000 project was under way, the new centre sections that were being offerd up to the existing airframes wouldnt fit, as the original Comets were pretty much hand built and the holes were as much as an inch out of true! Damned impressive sight though, seeing all those beautiful Nimrods . oh well, what might have been………….

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