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I am building a model of a Seafire F46, I have a question for the experts out there. Forward of Frame 8, what was the colour of the insides? The cockpit was black (compared to the normal cockpit green) but what should I paint the model’s engine frame/bay area please?

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By: QldSpitty - 20th October 2006 at 07:54

No worries mate.Will get a few sets rolled up then when we get to it.How did you go on the rear centre channel on 9.

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By: Rocketeer - 19th October 2006 at 21:35

Sides and bottom channel!! I have the rest….

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By: QldSpitty - 19th October 2006 at 08:49

The pain,the pain!!!

Frame 9 “shudder”,errrmm not quite yet.Well not all of it anyway.A few gussets and braces.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/Spitty/f9ctrchannel.jpg
What channels are you after,the sides or bottom member.Stuart you should know that here we have two temperatures.Hot and BL00DY hot.28 degrees today,a nice spring day. 😎

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By: Rocketeer - 18th October 2006 at 21:00

Beautiful job QLDSpitty!!! Better than mine!! Dont suppose you have some of the channels for Frame 9 please!!!

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By: stuart gowans - 18th October 2006 at 14:58

Problem is that one set would be built in a very warm climate and one set would be made in Britain so when the two would be mated together it would look like a poorly fitting Airfix kit!

David, I thought you were going to say “one set would be made in a very warm climate, and the other in Australia”

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By: Mark V - 18th October 2006 at 11:58

Sounds good to me; I’ll get straight on to making frame 18A, if someone will make frame 8 for me…..

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By: QldSpitty - 18th October 2006 at 11:50

Oooohhh 18a haven’t got that one.Ummm do you want a compass mount with frame 8?

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By: stuart gowans - 18th October 2006 at 11:36

A cunning plan?

Why don’t one of you tool up and make one frame whilst the the other does ditto on a different frame, and then trade. 🙂

Net saving – one set of tooling.

Mark

Sounds good to me; I’ll get straight on to making frame 18A, if someone will make frame 8 for me…..

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By: QldSpitty - 18th October 2006 at 10:13

Paint and Glue not included

She,l be right mate,thats what Squadron Green Modelling Putty is for :p 😀 :diablo:

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By: David Burke - 18th October 2006 at 10:06

Problem is that one set would be built in a very warm climate and one set would be made in Britain so when the two would be mated together it would look like a poorly fitting Airfix kit!

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By: QldSpitty - 18th October 2006 at 10:01

Stuart.Yep this is the rolling machine Mk2..(the Mk1 didn,t perform well)Still needs a bit of tidying up but it works ,and the rollers are easily interchangeable so various sized channels/hatsections can be done.I got the idea off a mate of mine in England.
Mark..If we make the odd numbered frames and swap someone else who makes the even numbered frames…won,t we still only get half a plane?? 😉 Honestly would be glad to help guys out.

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By: Mark12 - 18th October 2006 at 09:43

A cunning plan?

Why don’t one of you tool up and make one frame whilst the the other does ditto on a different frame, and then trade. 🙂

Net saving – one set of tooling.

Mark

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By: stuart gowans - 18th October 2006 at 09:33

Qld, I like your rolling tool, looks like it would make light work of an otherwise tedious p*xy job.

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By: QldSpitty - 18th October 2006 at 08:58

OOOhhh….. nice

Cheers Rocketeer.Well I,m a man of my word.Here’s our attempt so far. :p
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/Spitty/Spitfire/Frame11top.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/Spitty/Spitfire/spitparts006.jpg
Great work mate. 😀

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By: Rocketeer - 16th October 2006 at 19:45

A shot of some stuff for the project, more to follow

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By: stuart gowans - 13th October 2006 at 14:40

As in most disputes of “ownership”, it will be the man with the deepest pockets who is deemed the owner by the courts; looking at something as a comparison,another project of mine is the E type, these vehicles have the serial no. stamped into a bolt on frame forward of the engine, and on the identity “data” plate pop rivetted to the “tub”.

New “data” plates are available on eb@y for about £8- or £10 pre stamped; once you have a second hand picture frame ,(and they are commonly changed in restoration) you have the basis of an identity; obviously the “donor” vehicle is still out there, but if not on a current V5 then cloning is possible.

Is it not the case that sub assemblies on spitfires are also stamped with build no’s; some of my bits and pieces are stamped with a 4 digit no. including the airscoop, and part of the engine bearers.

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By: Mark12 - 13th October 2006 at 11:59

I wasn’t actually refering to a particular instance hence using ‘Spitfire IX’ in brackets and to be perfectly honest the trade in data plates and Spitfires in general isn’t something I am distinctly fond of. Undoubtedly with the travels of in France hunting
Spitfires at present seemingly easy there might well be some interesting finds and indeed disputes!

I had assumed this was a theoretical case.

Your lack of ‘fondness’ had been noted.

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By: David Burke - 13th October 2006 at 11:02

I wasn’t actually refering to a particular instance hence using ‘Spitfire IX’ in brackets and to be perfectly honest the trade in data plates and Spitfires in general isn’t something I am distinctly fond of. Undoubtedly with the travels of in France hunting
Spitfires at present seemingly easy there might well be some interesting finds and indeed disputes!

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By: Mark12 - 13th October 2006 at 08:59

Indeed – there will at some stage in the future be an instance of someone with several tonnes of mangled ‘Spitfire IX’ clearly identified through provenance and another person holding the data plate – who holds the aircraft?

David

In the case you cite, the former in my view.

It might need a legal judgement to consider circumstances, as clearly at some point the latter got separated from the former.

The firewall and/or fuselage dataplates, which make no reference to the RAF serial identification, unless written in electric pen or indelible pencil on the rear, are a bonus.

Unlike Hurricanes and P-51’s, where dataplates are a commodity, it dosen’t really work like that with Spitfires. I for example have two further Spitfire firewalls with data plates. A Westlands Mk V and a Supermarine Mk VIII. RAF ID – not a clue.

A ‘divided up’ substantial crash recovery, with two or more piles of ‘mangled Mk IX’ are were the problems lie. 🙂

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By: QldSpitty - 13th October 2006 at 08:38

If a single spit was broken up and the resulting parts put into a variety of other reproductions or builds.Would the classification be noted as “contains parts of Spitfire(insert serial here)” to all the resulting airframes?Rocketeer,show us yours and I,ll show you ours!!We are on F11 as well..Cheers

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