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LCA Tejas and derivatives news and discussion (reincarnated)

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 18th March 2020 at 18:22

Finally, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had approved the 83 Tejas Mk1A order. One step away from contract signature now. Hopefully before March 31, 2020.

DAC paves the way for procurement of 83 LCA Mk1A from HAL by finalising the contractual and other issues. The proposal will now be placed for consideration of Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS).

 

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In a big boost to ‘Make in India’, DAC paves way for procurement of 83 indigenous Tejas fighter aircraft for IAF
Posted On: 18 MAR 2020 5:21PM by PIB Delhi

Consequent to the separation of duties between Department of Defence (DoD) and Department of Military Affairs (DMA), the first meeting of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) under the chairmanship of Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh was held with the Acquisition Wing being the Secretariat of the DAC. This would lead to better coordination and faster processing of cases with the Acquisition wing being in the overall charge of the Capital acquisition process.

The Light Combat Aircraft Tejas indigenously-designed by Aircraft Development Agency (ADA) under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) is going to be the backbone of Indian Air Force in future. While orders of 40 Tejas aircraft had been placed with HAL in initial configurations, DAC paved the way for procurement of 83 of the more advanced Mk1A version of the aircraft from HAL by finalising the contractual and other issues. The proposal will now be placed for consideration of Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS).
This procurement will be a major boost to ‘Make in India’ as the aircraft is indigenously designed, developed and manufactured with participation of several local vendors apart from HAL.

The Defence Acquisition Council also accorded approval for acquisition of indigenous Defence equipment for about Rs 1,300 crore. The proposals were for procurement of Aerial Fuses and Twin-Dome Simulators for Hawk Mk132 aircraft for the Indian Air Force.

The DAC approved an amendment to the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) 2016 to enable review by a Costing Committee of bids submitted by Joint Ventures of Defence Public Sector Undertakings (DPSUs)/Ordnance Factory Board (OFB)/DRDO from whom procurement of Defence items is undertaken on a nomination basis. This will bring about more transparency in costs and compress the timelines for negotiation of the contract.

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 18th March 2020 at 17:53

SP-21

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 17th March 2020 at 19:54

Second Tejas squadron, No.18 ‘Flying Bullets’ to be stood up on the Tejas Mk1 after the first 4 are delivered to the IAF.  The ‘Flying Bullets’ are one of the most prestigious IAF squadrons, boasting of the only Param Vir Chakra recipient of the IAF, Flying Officer Nirmal Jit Singh Sekhon, posthumously awarded for taking on 6 Sabres alone in his Gnat.

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Bengaluru: A new variant of India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas completed its first flight successfully..

One of the key features of the new Tejas variant is the air-to-air refuelling probe giving it an edge during enduring missions. The new variants will be able to fly non-stop for over eight hours with air refueling support, thereby giving a fillip to IAF operations.

During Tuesday’s flight, the airframe profile profile was tested in which the engine and aircraft performance was proven. As a mandatory practice, the pilot is said to have also flown an inverted sortie that lasted for 10 seconds. During today’s flight the pilot pulled 8G and touched supersonic speeds which proved the airframe and engine capabilities.

HAL sources say that Tejas SP-22 is likely to fly at the end of this month and two more fighters (SP-23 and SP-24) will join the party by end of May. Tejas SP-22 is expected to undergo EGR (engine ground run) this week.

IAF sources say that the second squadron of Tejas (No 18, Flying Bullets) will be formed at Air Force Station Sulur by likely next month, with the induction of first four fighters. Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal R K S Bhadauria who held the Tejas review on March 2 has told all stakeholders to work in synergy towards the effective operationalisation of the Tejas fleet. The IAF Chief also reviewed the IOC, FOC, Tejas MkIA and Tejas MkII variants and asked DRDO and HAL to hasten up the development schedules.

In a recent interview to Onmanorama, the IAF Chief said that with the induction of the second squadron IAF will enhance the operational utilisation of the Tejas. “The Tejas has very good capabilities and as we gain experience we will continue to expand its operational utility in IAF plans,” Air Chief Marshal Bhadauria had said.

 

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HAL officials say that they have benefited immensely …

“The lessons from the recent deliveries of Tejas fighters to IAF have come handy for us in the current scheme of things. SP-21 could have flown much earlier provided the clearance for software configurations came early from the authorities,” says an official. …

FOC Features SP-21 boasts of key features like air-to-air refuelling probe, Gsh-23 mm gun, pressure refueling with three drop tank configuration, improved wing navigation lamp, tandem pylon and auto-low speed recovery to name a few. Here’s a quick glance at the new features:…

 

 

 

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 17th March 2020 at 19:13

SP-21, tail number LA-5021, the first FOC certified series production Tejas Mk1 flew yesterday for the first time.

Air to air probe integrated, 3 drop tank config with pressure refueling, Gsh-23 cannon integrated, new dual carriage pylons, new Auto Low Speed Recovery mode in the FCS, Derby BVRAAM integrated.

Flavour of the day…. Maiden flight of LCA FOC series production fighter SP-21 tail number LA-5021, piloted by HAL’s Chief of Test Flying, Air Commodore KA Muthana VSM.

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By: Spitfire9 - 17th March 2020 at 16:32

First flight of SP21

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 10th March 2020 at 21:20

Moving forward with the LCA (Navy)

An excellent article by one of India’s most experienced Navy Test Pilots, Cmdr Jaydeep Maolankar.  He has been associated with the LCA Navy program from the outset and been one of the pillars of that program. The article details many aspects of the LCA Navy Mk1 program, the challenges faced and how the test program finally completed the carrier compatibility trials.

 

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By: TomcatViP - 10th March 2020 at 20:08

Neat.  Call me old-school but with a backup HSI (dial) it would have been even better.

 

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 8th March 2020 at 19:00

LCA Navy’s cockpit. Open the image in a new browser to see it in full size

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 8th March 2020 at 18:58

Navy’s test pilots deputed to NFTC with the LCA Navy NP1 and NP2

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 8th March 2020 at 18:56

NP1 and NP2 in hangar

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 8th March 2020 at 18:55

LCA Navy NP2 on INS Vikramaditya

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 27th February 2020 at 20:16

SP-21, the first serial production Tejas Mk1 FOC fighter

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By: TomcatViP - 19th February 2020 at 22:53

No. Hal need capital for long term planing and to sustain a right level of R&D or strategic investment.

A public company (owned in full or  in majority) by the gov is not an administration.

Administrations don’t build planes, even in India. 

 

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 18th February 2020 at 19:35

HAL is a Public Sector Unit. It is owned entirely by the GoI. It’s profits end up with the GoI itself. the IAF gets it’s budget from the GoI and has to pay for what it wants from HAL using those funds. So basically, adding a profit margin to it doesn’t make sense from the GoI POV. It just goes from one pocket to another pocket. But, the IAF just has less funds then to procure other items it badly needs using it’s capital purchases budget.

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By: TomcatViP - 18th February 2020 at 07:03

It’s quite a story by itself to say the least. From $9 billions downto 5+ and gov deep scrutiny into Hal commercial practices, we have there something atypical.

As an example, why wouldn’t Hal make a profit on sensitive foreign items it has helped secured for import? 

So, as an example, if tomorrow I have the opportunity to sale  luxurious imported corporate  cars to the Indian governement, I would have to do so for free?! 

In many WTO countries, any items or service procured can’t be re-offered without a margin. It’s normal business practice that helps to  fight corruption and keep a sane accountability. 

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 17th February 2020 at 21:44

It seems that the negotiations between HAL and the MoD have finally been wrapped up and will now transition to the CCS for the final nod before the deal is officially signed.

Rs 39,000 crores for 83 Tejas Mk1A and the associated support ground support equipment, spares and simulators. Works out to $5.57 billion @ Rs 70 to the US $. 

HAL to provide IAF with 83 Tejas fighters in Rs 39k crore deal

“With the contract price now settled at Rs 39,000 crore, the procurement file is being sent to the Cabinet Committee on Security for final nod. It should be cleared before this fiscal ends on March 31. Once the contract is inked, HAL promises to begin deliveries of the Mark-1A jets in three years,” said a source.

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 7th February 2020 at 22:19

MWF specifications

Longer than Tejas Mk1 by 1.4 m,

Wing Span 0.3 m larger than Tejas Mk1

Height 0.46 m more than Tejas Mk1

MTOW- 17,500 kgs. i.e. 4,000 kgs more than Tejas Mk1

Empty Weight- 7,850 kgs i.e approx 1250 kgs more than Tejas Mk1

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By: Spitfire9 - 5th February 2020 at 14:26

Safran to deliver full engine ToT?

Leading French engine manufacturer Safran has said that it is ready to transfer the full technology for jet engines that can power next generation fighter jets and has initiated talks on the matter

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 4th February 2020 at 21:46

A couple of really good quality CG renderings of the upcoming Medium Weight Fighter (MWF)

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By: BlackArcherRedux - 4th February 2020 at 19:50

Finally some confirmation that HAL has planned to increase the rate of production from the 16 Tejas fighters per year that they’re currently close to getting to.

HAL plans to outsource 35% of LCA manufacturing to private sector

HAL has put in place the infrastructure to double its capacity to produce 16 of the fighter jets every year and has a contingency plan to increase it further if the need arises. “The second (production) line has been set up. With two lines we can manage 16 a year and if really required we can put up a third line as well,” said Madhavan.

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