Im sure that everone is aware at the very controversial Bermuda 2 agreement that only allows 2 US and 2 British airlines to operate transatlantic service to/from LHR.
A seperate agreement between Ireland and the US restricts Irish airlines to operate scheduled flights to New York,Boston,Chicago and Los Angeles. Aer Lingus serve Orlando via a charter licence and Baltimore via an under served cities agreement.
But what if bmi or Aer Lingus were to use a ”freinds” operating license.
Lets use bmi as an example. If bmi were to use fellow Star Allaince member United Airlines operating license would they under UA flight codes be able to operate flights from LHR to USA? Of course UA could make a few $$$ out of it.
And if EI were to use AA licence could they serve any US city which AA are allowed to do. i.e. AA are allowed fly SFO-DUB but EI arnt.
I dont know if it’s a ridicolous thought but Im interested in finding out what other forum members think.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 12th April 2005 at 18:38
I meant Irish airlines in general.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 12th April 2005 at 18:38
I meant Irish airlines in general.
By: greekdude1 - 12th April 2005 at 18:13
Aer Lingus no longer operate to EWR. They pulled the route after 9/11. they were able to operate to EWR because it is counted as a New York airport.
Ok, I was not aware of this, but they still operate to LAX and JFK, and by that token, they do serve the U.S. In your earlier post when you said, “A seperate agreement between Ireland and the US restricts Irish airlines to operate scheduled flights to New York,Boston,Chicago and Los Angeles,” Did you mean ‘Irish Airlines other than Aer Lingus” or just Irish Airlines in general?
I know what a codeshare is but what I meant was the airline i.e. bmi would be using their equipment but under United air operating licence.
Ok, I see what you mean. I do not know the answer to that question. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on the situation.
By: greekdude1 - 12th April 2005 at 18:13
Aer Lingus no longer operate to EWR. They pulled the route after 9/11. they were able to operate to EWR because it is counted as a New York airport.
Ok, I was not aware of this, but they still operate to LAX and JFK, and by that token, they do serve the U.S. In your earlier post when you said, “A seperate agreement between Ireland and the US restricts Irish airlines to operate scheduled flights to New York,Boston,Chicago and Los Angeles,” Did you mean ‘Irish Airlines other than Aer Lingus” or just Irish Airlines in general?
I know what a codeshare is but what I meant was the airline i.e. bmi would be using their equipment but under United air operating licence.
Ok, I see what you mean. I do not know the answer to that question. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on the situation.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 12th April 2005 at 18:04
Aer Lingus no longer operate to EWR. They pulled the route after 9/11. they were able to operate to EWR because it is counted as a New York airport.
I know what a codeshare is but what I meant was the airline i.e. bmi would be using their equipment but under United air operating licence.
By: SHAMROCK321 - 12th April 2005 at 18:04
Aer Lingus no longer operate to EWR. They pulled the route after 9/11. they were able to operate to EWR because it is counted as a New York airport.
I know what a codeshare is but what I meant was the airline i.e. bmi would be using their equipment but under United air operating licence.
By: Airline owner - 12th April 2005 at 18:00
Just where it says 2 US and 2 UK airlines can only do the routes to LHR from over the ‘pond’. It could be 3.
Thats all I was saying.
By: Airline owner - 12th April 2005 at 18:00
Just where it says 2 US and 2 UK airlines can only do the routes to LHR from over the ‘pond’. It could be 3.
Thats all I was saying.
By: LBARULES - 12th April 2005 at 17:53
Whats that got to do with anything?
By: LBARULES - 12th April 2005 at 17:53
Whats that got to do with anything?
By: Airline owner - 12th April 2005 at 17:48
I thought I read in AW a few months back that bmi are/have been in talks to launch some sort of route to the US East coast.
By: Airline owner - 12th April 2005 at 17:48
I thought I read in AW a few months back that bmi are/have been in talks to launch some sort of route to the US East coast.
By: greekdude1 - 12th April 2005 at 17:16
Last time I checked, Aer Lingus have non-stop flights to JFK, EWR, and LAX amongst other places, from either Shannon or Dublin (or both). With this ‘codeshare’ that you mention, would the U.S. carrier be operating the flights with their own aircraft? If so, this type of codesharing already exists.
By: greekdude1 - 12th April 2005 at 17:16
Last time I checked, Aer Lingus have non-stop flights to JFK, EWR, and LAX amongst other places, from either Shannon or Dublin (or both). With this ‘codeshare’ that you mention, would the U.S. carrier be operating the flights with their own aircraft? If so, this type of codesharing already exists.
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