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Lendlease ownership question

Hi, I’m new here.

I found this link

https://www.denix.osd.mil/denix/Public/ES-Programs/Conservation/Sunken/sunken.html

This of course applies to US owned military equipment, even if its abandoned.

When lendlease aircraft are recovered from places like Russia, who is the actual owner of the aircraft? The Russian or the United States government?

I recall somewhere reading the reason why the RN dumped so many american aircraft off the decks of aircraft carriers was the lendlease condition that any non destoryed aircraft had to be paid for after WW2 ended.

The RN aircraft were on loan from the USA, I would assume the same conditions would apply to aircraft supplied to the USSR.

Hoping someone can answer my question.

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By: DaveF68 - 15th February 2006 at 00:49

Most Lend lease was owned by US Govt, not uSN, so slightly different – USN has an archieologists view

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By: T6flyer - 14th February 2006 at 13:35

When all the ex-Italian Air Force Harvards and T-6Gs came out of Italy in 1983 (G-BKRA, CTKL etc) when sold at auction, the monies were still paid to the American Government as the airframes were all either old lend-lease (even from other operators) or from the later mutual aid.

I’ve seen T-6s in the past where the sum paid is rather nominal like $1.

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By: TEXANTOMCAT - 14th February 2006 at 13:30

Well HMG owns all wrecks Allied and Axis in UK waters and in UK Territory – certainly for WW2 period – thats for certain – i think it becomes a bit more complicated with MDAP, from memory MAM had discussions with the USAF on that point and certainly there were ‘issues’ I think with the Brunters Mystere….

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 14th February 2006 at 11:45

I think there are some interesting legal questions. For example if the material is written-off and no longer appears on an inventory doesn’t that mean that ownership has been forfeited? Also stuff in deep oceans os open to salvage law (presumably) rather than any one country’s law. The shouting about this started after people were pulling things out of Lake Michigan (as I remember) and someone in power noticed how much it was worth.

Lend Lease never belonged to the governments it was loaned to but there is an interesting question of whether it still belongs to someone who has washed their hands of it.

It may just be a case of who has the most money to spend on lawyers.

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