"LHR should be phased out"

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One thing people seem to of missed…we are an island, there is plenty of areas that could be used to build a new airport…hence my personal idea would be to close down all the major London airports except LCY (I would keep that open for bizjets and royal flights!) and I would build a huge brand new airport from reclaimed land off the cost of Cornwall…with a high speed rail link (dashed blue line) to connect it to the centre of London, see below!

A fine theory, but practically it is impossible. Not with the fat cats we have in our system that would let that rail line just rot so that the high speed aspect would become a 40mph chug chug. Either that or some bunch of people will protest to the high speeds.

Anyway, that rail line you propose is much too long and will cause the death of any business travel. It would take 2, maybe 3 to 4 hours to get to london from that island airport. A business man that spends 7 hours on an A380 or 747 does not need another 3 hours travel time to get to that meeting.

Sorry, wozza, perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. I was responding to tomfellows’ post where Heathrow would remain in place.

Even so, from an ATC point of view, the best place for a Heathrow Mk.II would be Brize or Fairford. :diablo:

No problem, It appears I overlooked tomfellows post,

It would be rediculous to segregate airports for different traffic types – even more passengers would be lost to KLM/Schipol and AF/Paris due to better connections.

I agree LHR and LGW should be both closed and a ‘super’ airport built, where? why not the proposed LHR Mk. II in the thames estuary, more than enough space – my only concern would be the impact on the local environment.

One thing people seem to of missed…we are an island, there is plenty of areas that could be used to build a new airport…hence my personal idea would be to close down all the major London airports except LCY (I would keep that open for bizjets and royal flights!) and I would build a huge brand new airport from reclaimed land off the cost of Cornwall…with a high speed rail link (dashed blue line) to connect it to the centre of London, see below!

Therefor they knew about the airport when moving in. And most of todays younger homeowners certainly have nothing to say as they certainly knew about the noise when buying!

I’m with you on that one.

That’s because Heathrow wasn’t originally on the present site it is today.

The Original airport was on Hounslow Heath.

Regardless, the point being that the housing arround the current Heathrow airport only started popping up around the 60s I believe. LHR had already been firmly established. Thus, its been there longer than most local residents. Therefor they knew about the airport when moving in. And most of todays younger homeowners certainly have nothing to say as they certainly knew about the noise when buying!

It could just be me, but why not close both LHR & LGW and create a new super-airport for London?

And where do you propose such an airport should be built?

Brize, Fairford, Filton… All too far from London surely. :rolleyes:

Even so, from an ATC point of view, the best place for a Heathrow Mk.II would be Brize or Fairford

How about Filton? 😉

But then, the houses around Heathrow have all popped its SINCE then.

That’s because Heathrow wasn’t originally on the present site it is today.

The Original airport was on Hounslow Heath.

Sorry, wozza, perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. I was responding to tomfellows’ post where Heathrow would remain in place.

Even so, from an ATC point of view, the best place for a Heathrow Mk.II would be Brize or Fairford. :diablo:

As things stand, there isn’t the airspace and ATC capacity to allow for another major airport in the SE of England (especially S or E of London); as well as London, you’ve got Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and more to consider. IIRC the recent venture of Manston as a low cost base caused massive problems for my colleagues at Swanwick and West Drayton.

Thats WITH Heathrow – new airport would NOT have the constraints of all that LHR traffic,

Wozza

Stansted should become purely locost (which it practically is), Heathrow should be European Scheduled, Gatwick could be charter flights and they should build an airport for long haul flights on the Thames Estuary

As things stand, there isn’t the airspace and ATC capacity to allow for another major airport in the SE of England (especially S or E of London); as well as London, you’ve got Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam and more to consider. IIRC the recent venture of Manston as a low cost base caused massive problems for my colleagues at Swanwick and West Drayton.

Silly idea. Heathrow has already spent over 450 million pounds to handle the new A380. It is a rediculous idea to close the airport.

IMO, anyone younger than 75 as no rights what so ever to complain about Heathrow. Since the Airport has been there much longer that them.

Even at 75 years, you’d be pushing it. If your 85, then perhaps you’d have owned a house in the area before Heathrow was officialy made commercial. But then, the houses around Heathrow have all popped its SINCE then.

Again, IMO

Stansted should become purely locost (which it practically is), Heathrow should be European Scheduled, Gatwick could be charter flights and they should build an airport for long haul flights on the Thames Estuary

Why don’t they just expand Stansted and make that the super airport or expand Gatwick.

[QUOTE=wozza]I have to say I support the idea – I want to see a London Airport up there, busiest in Europe and top of the world even, but thats just not going to happen at the current site, its position is slipping and without room to facilitate any more expansion there comes a time to move to some where that can.

Hmm not sure about LHR’s position slipping.. there’s still life in the old girl yet!

I seriously do not see LHR closing.. too much has been invested in the ifs.

I have to say I support the idea – I want to see a London Airport up there, busiest in Europe and top of the world even, but thats just not going to happen at the current site, its position is slipping and without room to facilitate any more expansion there comes a time to move to some where that can.

A new airport, means the airport (taxiways, terminal buildings etc…) can be laid out in a simpler format and in a way in which expansion is easier – such as at Jersey where the terminal was built with expansion in mind,

Wozza