dark light

Lindbergh Paradox?

Hi

Am I right in thinking that Charles Lindbergh initially preached US isolationalism i.e. against getting involved in a foreign war particularly in Europe?

Did he not then go onto being a observer/consultant for the USAAF flying P-38s in the Pacific Theatre? My main question is: what bought on the change of heart?

I seem to recall him getting entangled in battle when he should not have been and also developing a power setting that significantly extended the range of the Lightning. Was this contributory to the death of Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto?

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

2,569

Send private message

By: BlueRobin - 5th January 2008 at 13:27

Crushing pressure from events and opinion conspiring against him. I can see how a person and nation can change its opinion given enough time.

The WaW series seems to indicate FDR was following a strategy that bit by bit would generate events by themselves such that opinion could only get behind the War. If you recall the “history records who fired the first shot” speech.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

937

Send private message

By: Pondskater - 5th January 2008 at 11:29

Hi

Am I right in thinking that Charles Lindbergh initially preached US isolationalism i.e. against getting involved in a foreign war particularly in Europe?

Now that’s spooky – at the same time you posed this question I was reading about this in the library. I stumbled upon an article in the New York Times archive from July 1940 which really laid into Lindbergh for his pacifist views. I didn’t take notes because I was looking for something else but it was interesting to read the strength of criticism he generated. That level of bad publicity would be very difficult for him to turn around after his change of heart.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

2,569

Send private message

By: BlueRobin - 4th January 2008 at 21:41

Thanks chaps.

TT – I’m supposed to be doing an instructor course but weather and health are conspiring against progress so am stuck at home feeling ick. I’ve downloaded the entire series of the World at War and whilst making my way through it two pieces of disparate information I knew about Linbergh collided. 🙂

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

2,541

Send private message

By: Rlangham - 4th January 2008 at 20:42

Blimey BR thats out of the blue

my thoughts today haven’t extended beyond what sandwich i fancy for lunch.

I think this forum should be streamed – you go to the top set, I stay with the dunces and smoke fags behind the bike sheds! (and beat up all the swots) :p 😀

TT

You haven’t had lunch by 3pm?! By 3 i’m cooking tea!

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

814

Send private message

By: Dan Johnson - 4th January 2008 at 19:37

BlueRobin

CSheppardholedi has it right. The attack on Pearl Harbour turned it from “another European mess” into a war directly against the U.S.

In addition to his work with USAAF groups and the P-38, he also flew combat missions with USN or USMC flying Corsairs. I belive he was credited (or claimed) with a victory..unofficially.

FDR hated Lindbergh for his earlier political views and denied him a chance to serve in the active forces the same way that Jimmy Doolittle was called back from his Shell Oil position to lead the Tokyo raid.

Lindbergh’s kill was with the 475th flying 38s. He shot down a Sonia if I remember right. He was out there teaching pilot to get more range out of their birds. He flew with Jug drivers, P38s, Corsairs etc.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

10,735

Send private message

By: J Boyle - 4th January 2008 at 17:03

BlueRobin

CSheppardholedi has it right. The attack on Pearl Harbour turned it from “another European mess” into a war directly against the U.S.

In addition to his work with USAAF groups and the P-38, he also flew combat missions with USN or USMC flying Corsairs. I belive he was credited (or claimed) with a victory..unofficially.

FDR hated Lindbergh for his earlier political views and denied him a chance to serve in the active forces the same way that Jimmy Doolittle was called back from his Shell Oil position to lead the Tokyo raid.

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

566

Send private message

By: CSheppardholedi - 4th January 2008 at 15:39

Here is a link to a “brief” outline of that period. He had been “wowed” by the Nazi’s while touring in Germany and believed the US should stay out of that European mess. After the attack on Pearl Harbor, things changed, he tried to do his patriotic duty, but was snubbed by the FDR adminestration. He eventually worked his way back into US Aviation.

Here is the link…interesting read.

http://www.charleslindbergh.com/wwii/

Member for:

19 years 1 month

Posts:

4,005

Send private message

By: TEXANTOMCAT - 4th January 2008 at 15:04

Blimey BR thats out of the blue

my thoughts today haven’t extended beyond what sandwich i fancy for lunch.

I think this forum should be streamed – you go to the top set, I stay with the dunces and smoke fags behind the bike sheds! (and beat up all the swots) :p 😀

TT

Sign in to post a reply