By: chornedsnorkack - 7th June 2006 at 15:03
If anyone saw coverage on the A380, on the upper deck the windows were quite high compared to current aircraft so hopefully tall people such as Mark L and myself are not bending our necks in the future! I was surprised how tall the fokker 100 windows where too.
By: greekdude1 - 7th June 2006 at 08:46
Indeed. The DC-8 idea was to have big windows at every seat row – every 40 inches. Comfortable… but when you try to cram coach seats at less than 40 inches pitch, problems begin.
Any idea what pitch UA, DL, etc. had on their diesel eight’s back in the day?
On a side note, companies like UPS had fewer windows to plug as a result when they converted the Eights to freighters. 😉
By: chornedsnorkack - 7th June 2006 at 08:34
Yeah, but if you look at the DC-8, the windows seem to be spaced out more than your typical narrowbody. None of the Boeing narrows seem to be like this.
Indeed. The DC-8 idea was to have big windows at every seat row – every 40 inches. Comfortable… but when you try to cram coach seats at less than 40 inches pitch, problems begin.
Boeing 707 had much smaller windows every 20 inches. So, you have small windows and if the pitch is not a multiple of 20 inches, they are in different positions – but at least every row has some. Except some windows are blocked.
At any rate, I’ll take an aisle seat on a flight longer than 2 hours any day. Don’t get me wrong, I like looking at the surroundings as much as the next guy, but once my bladder takes over, I like to be able to move around at my discretion and not have to climb over people. On shorter flights I take the window. I mainly like looking outside while taxying and takeoff and landing. I’m not a big fan of looking at glaciers, oceans, clouds, and checkerboard patterns for extended periods of time.
Which means the best plane for long flights is ERJ. 3 seats abreast, 2 of which are aisle seats. Only one non-aisle seat and one seat is both window and aisle seat…
By: andrewm - 7th June 2006 at 08:31
If anyone saw coverage on the A380, on the upper deck the windows were quite high compared to current aircraft so hopefully tall people such as Mark L and myself are not bending our necks in the future! I was surprised how tall the fokker 100 windows where too.
By: greekdude1 - 7th June 2006 at 05:34
Then sounds like narrowbodies are better. In a MD-11, there are 9 or 10 seats abreast, just 2 of which have a window. In a DC-8, there are just 6 seats abreast, and still 2 of them with a window…
Yeah, but if you look at the DC-8, the windows seem to be spaced out more than your typical narrowbody. None of the Boeing narrows seem to be like this. At any rate, I’ll take an aisle seat on a flight longer than 2 hours any day. Don’t get me wrong, I like looking at the surroundings as much as the next guy, but once my bladder takes over, I like to be able to move around at my discretion and not have to climb over people. On shorter flights I take the window. I mainly like looking outside while taxying and takeoff and landing. I’m not a big fan of looking at glaciers, oceans, clouds, and checkerboard patterns for extended periods of time.
By: chornedsnorkack - 6th June 2006 at 11:49
I don’t know anything about window sizes but it drives me nuts when I can’t get a window seat. For me one of the pleasures of flying is not just the aircraft/airline/airport etc but being able to see where you are passing over.
Then sounds like narrowbodies are better. In a MD-11, there are 9 or 10 seats abreast, just 2 of which have a window. In a DC-8, there are just 6 seats abreast, and still 2 of them with a window…
By: Old Git - 6th June 2006 at 11:30
I don’t know anything about window sizes but it drives me nuts when I can’t get a window seat. For me one of the pleasures of flying is not just the aircraft/airline/airport etc but being able to see where you are passing over. One of the best flights for that was flying back from Kinshasa in the Congo in a Swissair MD-11 and passing over tropical rainforest, the Sahara, the med and then into Geneva with the surrounding mountains. We stopped at Douala in the Cameroon and a Royal Flight Bae 146 had landed just before us with Prince Charles and Lady Di on an official visit. There was also a Cape Verde Nord 262 (I think) – I cursed myself for packing my camera in my suitcase.
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