Lockerbe

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T5 i’ve read black box and have the accompanying video, it sounds a bit morbid but i’m really into researching and reading dadt from accidents as it provides me with an insight into how easy it is to have something like that happen, the causes, consiquences and the changes made as a result.

RE: Lockerbe

Mmmmmm. Wouldn’t have thought seat belt length would make a great deal of difference when an aircraft is blown apart by a bomb at 30,000 feet or so?

Regards,

kev35

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Yep, that’d be right…

“The one, the only…..ANDREWM.”

Duhhhh!!

Regards

Wombat

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nah… Andy edited his post…

It originally said something along the lines of…

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Was Lockerbe (can’t remember the spelling) the worst air disaster to date?

Were there surviors, and were there any changes to cabin equipment (particularly seatbelts) made as a result of this?

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Now, I’d say he just got confused, and, on realising his mistake, just erased his original question. But you’d have to ask him, I suppose…

RE: Lockerbe

But saying that why did Bhoy say about seat belt length ? Im i being thick ?

RE: Lockerbe

Right im with u now,Thanks.

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The post was just a full stop, so in other words, nothing.

But we just picked up on air crashes and started to talk about them :).

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Wombat im confused too ?

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we give him the answers first then he tells us what the question was……

What was it all about Andrew??

sober at last

Dave

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I’m late coming in on this thread, but what the heck was AndrewM’s post – there is nothing there when I open the thread?

Wombat

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I recently read about that crash you are talking about monster500. I’m reading a book at the moment called Black Box, it is a Channel 4 book and the ISBN in case anyone is interested is 0-7522-6145-2.

The aircraft would have lasted longer had they operated it on long haul, but apparently, they were using it for these sorts of flights – just 30 minutes on a 747 and so, the more takeoffs and landing slowly put pressure on a rivet in the tail of the plane. Boeing had only put one in, not the standard two, so one little piece of metal was holding two huge pieces of metal together – obviously, not something that anybody would have believed if they had known about it.

RE: Lockerbe

The wreckage of a Japan Airlines Boeing 747 that crashed on Mt. Osutaka, Japan. Five-hundred twenty people out of 524 aboard were killed. Improper repairs by Boeing after a tail strike 7 years earlier, led to a rupture of the pressure bulkhead and loss of all controls. (August 12, 1985)

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RE: Lockerbe

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-11-02 AT 01:21 AM (GMT)]the worst crash was a JAL 747 in Japan in the mid 80s
over 500 souls were lost
It is still the worst single aircraft crash in the world.

Japan Airlines Crash

A Japan Air Lines Boeing 747 jetliner carrying 524 people slammed into a mountain and burst into flames Monday and rescue teams reaching the wreckage the next morning found at least four survivors of what may be the world’s worst disaster involving one plane. The jet, JAL Flight 123 from Tokyo’s Haneda airport to the western city of Osaka, crashed in remote, thickly wooded mountains some 60 miles northwest of Tokyo.
Wednesday, August 14, 1985
(UPI) — Tail sections of JAL Flight 123 ripped away from the plane before it pitched and rolled “all over the sky” in a terrifying 30-minute death plunge that killed 520 people, Japan Air Lines said Wednesday. Police said they found the flight recorders from the plane that crashed two days ago in the worst single airplane disaster in aviation history.

Thursday, August 29, 1985
(UPI) — The U.S. team investigating the Japan Air Lines jumbo jet crash is almost certain a rear cabin bulkhead failed before the accident, allowing pressurized air to burst the plane’s tail, investigative sources said Thursday. The sources, who are familiar with the investigation but spoke on condition they not be further identified, said American officials are “80 percent” sure the bulkhead split open before the crash.

http://www.mahk.com/sc1785.htm

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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-11-02 AT 01:26 AM (GMT)]anyway, no it wasn’t the worst disaster. there were 259 on board Clipper Maid of the Seas (N739PA) that night (December 21st 1988), and a further 11 residents of a sleepy Dumfrieshire town were killed by debris.

The already mentioned runway collision of PH-BUF and another PA Clipper in Tenerife in ’77 had far more casualties, for a start.

RE: Lockerbe

what the hell are you on about? you been sniffing something? :S

Lockerbie was a bomb, seatbelt length wouldn’t have come in to it…