Lockerbie aircraft

I’m pretty sure PA also had 727’s based at ZRH, that they used on connecting flights to GVA.

Definately saw one there [ZRH] in the late 80’s, and the only connecting flight out of ZRH I can recall was GVA.

The Lockerbie flight (PA103) originated in FRA, and the FRA-LHR sector was operated by 727.

They definitely had 727’s based in FRA, eventually taken over by DL, which closed down the FRA hub around ’95. TWA also had 727’s based in FRA.

LHR was a major European gateway for BOS, JFK, MIA, IAD, ORD, SEA, SFO & LAX. Onward eastbound was serviced by PA002. (PA001/002 was basically JFK to LAX and back – but the LONG way round. Notable stops being Istanbul, Tehran, Beirut, Delhi, Bangkok, and Hong Kong.)

Interestingly,a hangover from WWll was that Lufthansa could not operate into Berlin (I think I have that correct). Pan Am operated what was essentialy a feeder airline called the Internal German Service (I.G.S.) operating 727’s based in Berlin or possibly FRA. They operated all over Europe connecting through LHR.

Originally posted by Tim Green
PA’s London base was a tight-knit and friendly group. Many of the PA Flight Attendants, Passenger and Ground Crews remain at LHR with UAL to this day.

Indeed. On my last SYD-SFO flight, the flight attendant sitting in the exit row in front of me was ex Pan Am and she was flying her last flight. It was enjoyable talking to her.

This is way off the subject, obviously, but what destinations did PA serve from LHR?

A very sad and senceless loos. Saw what was left of the nose in the AAIb hangar here at farnborough a few years ago. Really made me think about flying, but doesn’t bear thinking about.

Well, it was many years ago now and we all knew at the time that the USS Vincennes (sp?) disaster in the Persian Gulf would trigger a revenge attack on the U.S. and that it would probably be taken on PAA or TWA in Europe or possibly NWO in Asia. It was only a matter of time.

In the States, with the massive loss of life, first in Kansas City and then in NYC; Lockerbie has paled by comparison. But, they must never be forgotten.

Sorry to hear of the loss. And sorry if the topic was a bit extreme.

Jethro:

Us too! We also flew on the ‘Maid’ operating PA 103. Our Purser for that flight was a friend of my Wife’s. She was killed on that fateful day just three weeks later.

PA’s London base was a tight-knit and friendly group. Many of the PA Flight Attendants, Passenger and Ground Crews remain at LHR with UAL to this day.

Flew on that a/c MIA / LHR a few months before it’s loss. Still brings a lump to the throat when I see photo’s of it

Re: sorry

Originally posted by rekotsGBOAE
Yes im sorry i couldnt agree more with you on that one, it was a aimless loss of life, and i am sorry for all the family members of the people that died, i have not experienced this within my family and i cant imagine what it must be like.

Hey, no need to apologise. I’m not offended, and I’m sure no-one else here is, I just felt the need to make sure those who perished are remembered too.

Sorry if I seemed a bit scathing, on seeing my post now I can see how it would have looked this way.

Mike

sorry

Yes im sorry i couldnt agree more with you on that one, it was a aimless loss of life, and i am sorry for all the family members of the people that died, i have not experienced this within my family and i cant imagine what it must be like.

Hi Rekbots,

While I agree with you that it was a beautiful aircraft, the loss of the airframe pales into insignificance when compared with the deaths of those on board and on the ground. They are the ones that must be remembered.

Mike

then i found this she had a great, powerful name i think.