I was googling for info on Halifax Waltzing Matilda (HP57’s thread) and came across a remarkable site, Peter Dunn’s Australia @ War (url below). There’s lots to see there but in particular I followed the Military Aircraft crashes link and got to here …
http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/ozcrashes/superbus.htm
There’s a photo there of a so-called Long-nosed Avro Lincoln … look at it!
As to what this is … Peter says “During the early ‘Fifties, there was much concern about the advanced capabilities of Russian submarines, and the RAAF decided to modify some Lincolns as submarine hunters. The 2850 gallons fuel capacity gave over 13 hours endurance, and the bomb bays were modified to take acoustic homing torpedoes as well as normal bombs. In order to carry submarine detecting gear, the nose section of these aircraft [was] lengthened an additional 6 feet. Additional crew were carried to monitor sonobuoy underwater listening equipment. This variant was designated the Lincoln Mk.31, and was commonly referred to as the Long Nose Lincoln.”
Two things …
1. I recommend Peter’s website
2. I presume there are Lincolns still about the place somewhere … Y/N?
By: setter - 18th March 2005 at 01:24
Hi all
Yes there is a project underway to bring the Lincoln from the UK back downunder and put it back together again. A nose for this machine will present some problems and efforts are under way to source one. I am led to believe that the transfer to Australia is not yet finalised and we would all do well not to upset the applecart yet till the deal is done.
Several other remains exist including appartntly one buried at Point Cook that was on the fire dump. The Camden museum nose was from a Lincoln destroyed on the fire dump at Mascot Kingsforsd Smith airport in the 1960’s and I am not sure the museum would be OK with donating it – no doubt discussions will take place if/when the Lincoln arrives in Aus. There are fairly bashed about remains on Mt Superbus in Queensland where a Linc crashed but good for small parts only I would have thought.
My ideal would be to see this restored as a short nosed Mk30 and a long nose restored and sat alongside it………….
Regards
John P
By: Smith - 18th March 2005 at 00:28
… the bomb bays were modified to take acoustic homing torpedoes …
Thanks for the links guys, I must say the look of the Lincoln is growing on me, I’ve tended ’til recently to see it as an ugly Lanc (incoming, duck!).
Anyone care to comment re. the concept of a Lincoln torpedo bomber? How low, how slow, etc.? I’m very naive on this one – I have in my mind the thought that until fairly recently air-dropped torpedoes tended to be rather sensitive to height, speed, angle of attack, etc. And even now aren’t they often helicopter borne?
By: dhfan - 17th March 2005 at 18:15
Thanks guys! I hadn’t seen the one with the tail on the budgie perch before…
Don’t say that, you’ll only set Lancman off again. 🙂
By: Flood - 17th March 2005 at 17:42
more photos here:
http://gais.demon.nl/Aircraft/Aircraft031/Aircraft031.htm
Martin
The first one on that site looks exactly like Lancaster R5868 at RAF Scampton rather than a Mk30 Lincoln…
Flood
By: Swiss Mustangs - 17th March 2005 at 17:33
more photos here:
http://gais.demon.nl/Aircraft/Aircraft031/Aircraft031.htm
Martin
By: British Canuck - 17th March 2005 at 17:30
Looks like both of those Argentine seem pretty complete…
First time I have seen the second one on the perch 🙂
By: Peter - 17th March 2005 at 15:09
there is also substantial remains of Lincolns SX924 in a Lake in canada
By: Eddie - 17th March 2005 at 13:55
Thanks guys! I hadn’t seen the one with the tail on the budgie perch before…
By: PaulR - 17th March 2005 at 13:19
Photos of both here; http://www.militaryairshows.net/gallvist2.htm.
By: Nermal - 17th March 2005 at 13:19
Anyone know the serial # of the two Argentine survivors?
One is marked B-010 – Nermal http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/revista/notas/Lincoln/Lincolne.htm
By: British Canuck - 17th March 2005 at 12:26
Anyone know the serial # of the two Argentine survivors?
By: oscar duck - 17th March 2005 at 11:30
There is a complete Lincoln nose as removed at the Camden Aviation Museum near Sydney. Maybe this will help the “new” Australian Lincoln!
By: Eddie - 17th March 2005 at 11:26
I’ve heard of this second Argentine Lincoln before, but never actually seen pics, or heard anything solid about it. Does anyone have any pictures of it, or information on its state?
By: RMAllnutt - 17th March 2005 at 06:10
There are two Lincolns in Argentina actually, rather than just one… hopefully the Australians will restore a fourth to completeness… a sadly very under-represented breed.
Cheers,
Richard
By: dhfan - 17th March 2005 at 05:48
I’m pretty sure there are only 2 complete Lincolns left, one at Cosford and one in Argentina. There are some substantial remains of another, ex-Sandtoft (ex-Southend?) which I think are Australia-bound. There was mention of it in a couple of threads fairly recently.
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