Looking For A Small Turbine APU

Wonder if the chap from Jet Art designs fancies them

ebay

So, It turns out that the two turbines i bought apparently arent suitable for turning into a jet engine…

Suggestions as to what to do with them? lol

You’re gonna need a bigger boat! :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gciFoEbOA8

They really are a LOT bigger than I first thought!!! the chap I bought them off reckoned that they would make 180-200lbs thrust at 44000rpm (Each)

lol, good luck!

Ok

So i did something crazy and bought those two airbleed turbines

They are a little bit bigger than i thought…..

I saw on the news last week that Jaguar’s latest concept car (CX-95??) would have a gas turbine for power. It would, as far as I could gather, produce electricity for the electric motors on each wheel.
Roger Smith

Somebody mention this. The C-X75…(With apologies for the massive thread creep)

I’m currently working with the supplier of the range extender gas turbines at the moment 😀

Talking of NPT engines heres one for sale, http://www.everettaero.com/npenny.html

Be a nice one for you Ben, might have to dig deep though!

Noel Penny Turbines also had a small factory in Harwich,I think they took over a firm called Budworth Engineering.
Colin.

Talking of NPT engines heres one for sale, http://www.everettaero.com/npenny.html

Be a nice one for you Ben, might have to dig deep though!

The link was the government asking Rover to produce Whittle engines that got them into gas turbine production. The Wilkes brothers discussed producing GT for a car in the mid 1940s and Leyland (as in the truck company) were asked to fund development, which they did.
All earo engine development went to Rolls and Rover concentrated on the automotive and APU development from that era.
The car engine became reality in the early 1950s (Jet1, T3 & 4, BRM etc) but was killed off by late 1960s. In a complete turn of the wheel a Rover gas turbine was fitted to a Chipmunk and as an auxilary power unit in the high lift MA.4
Chrysler and Kenworth trucks in the ‘States were also at it.

Wasn’t Noel Penny an ex Rover guy?
His engines were fitted in the Chichester Miles Leopard.

Pagen – I was only trying to say that considerable work was done on the Rover engines by Alvis (in Coventry) when both companies were part of British Leyland.

Not sure if there is a direct link between between Rover’s involvement with Whittle and their development, some years later, of the gas turbine used in their cars (and raced at Le Mans) and proposed/trialled to power an artic lorry (which SAAB also experimented with I think).

Haven’t got the details to hand but when Rover development wound down designer Noel Penny set up Noel Penny Turbines (also in Coventry) and were fairly well advanced with a new engine for trainers/business jets when the firm folded.

Roger Smith.

Gnomes are no longer found lying around gardens on toadstools :p they have got quite rare, they made a big hit in the US Tractor pulling market, where they were ideally suited, so were bought up at low prices when they were abundant.

Kinda big for what i want though mate! Gnomes are getting harder to come by these days too 🙁

I’d have thought you’d be better off with a small thrust producing engine rather than an apu or AAPP. A PT6 could be adapted quite easily to produce thrust rather than using up its energy on a turbine, as could a Gnome. Both would be easier to regulate than an APU which is designed to run at a fixed RPM

Are you sure, I thought Rover were developing their gas turbine before the Alvis link up?
Rover were in the business right from the start when they produced improved Whittle W2s/W2Bs from the early 1940s before coming up with their compact units, they sold the aero engine developments to Rolls (one becoming the Welland), but kept on with the diminutive units and gaining the Meteor piston (tanks etc)engine for production.

There is a sizeable thread on this somewhere, but even a decent running Rover unit is hard to find now.

“…a Rover unit…”
with a lot of involvement by Alvis 🙂

Roger Smith.

What about an APU from a Vulcan? – keep your ears open for the next one to be scrapped (ducks for cover)

It was actually a Rover unit that was originally built for their Gas turbine powered car.

I was going to build both :diablo: But tbh time money etc :p

And big and heavy! Arn’t some of those engines Eastern Bloc copies of the RR Nene?

Ben I would stick with your original idea of powering your cart with a big bike engine, far more useful power and more fun.
If you want a turbine have one for its own sake of ground running.