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I finally made the jump over here from the avi8.com site at the behest of Steve Beebee and my friend Steve Bridgewater (actually, I know Steve Beebee also, having met him briefly at Legends), and was surprised to see the many familiar faces from the avi8.com site in here…Daz, Ant, and a lot of the other boys…looks like I’ll be posting to both sites now.

So…has anyone said anything about the arrival of the “Donald Duck’ Mustang formerly owned by Bob Tullius arriving in the UK yet? Has anyone seen it? I have to admit to being a bit misty eyed at Oshkosh this year, reading the plaque in front of her detailing how she was going to be retired from flying and shipped to the RAF Museum at Hendon and put on display…I took a LOT of pics of her in action that day, just for posterity. Steve, (Steve…not Steve)…looks like we have a new reason to run down to North London to check out this new building and what kind of display they set ‘Donald Duck’ up in, eh wot?

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By: At6Pilot2B - 12th November 2003 at 10:39

Originally posted by trumper
😀 Dont i wish………,”spare a P51 guv” i’ve got a wife and hungry mouths to feed LOL

lol, it’ll be more than a hungry wife to feed if you had a mustang, hehehe

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By: trumper - 12th November 2003 at 10:20

Originally posted by At6Pilot2B
I knew someone would have one just laying around 😀 😀 😀

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😀 Dont i wish………,”spare a P51 guv” i’ve got a wife and hungry mouths to feed LOL

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By: At6Pilot2B - 12th November 2003 at 10:17

Originally posted by trumper
LOL:D Now where did i put it,i know it’s here somewhere.Come on out,i ………….oh well,never mind , CLATTER BANG,Swears as he walks into something big tucked away in a dark corner:D

I knew someone would have one just laying around 😀 😀 😀

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By: trumper - 12th November 2003 at 10:13

Originally posted by At6Pilot2B
sounds good, all we need now is someone to give us a mustang… *waits*…..*waits*…… i think this could take a while… oh i forgot! i have one!

LOL:D Now where did i put it,i know it’s here somewhere.Come on out,i ………….oh well,never mind , CLATTER BANG,Swears as he walks into something big tucked away in a dark corner:D

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By: At6Pilot2B - 12th November 2003 at 10:09

Originally posted by Snapper
And a bloody great grain silo which would be great for photos – far higher than a stepladder. And his neighbours are alright too.

Oh, and great big huge gates.

sounds good, all we need now is someone to give us a mustang… *waits*…..*waits*…… i think this could take a while… oh i forgot! i have one!

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By: At6Pilot2B - 12th November 2003 at 10:08

Originally posted by David Burke
Next time your at North Weald have a look through the hanger doors and see how some warbirds are kept in containers.

haha

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By: Snapper - 12th November 2003 at 00:12

And a bloody great grain silo which would be great for photos – far higher than a stepladder. And his neighbours are alright too.

Oh, and great big huge gates.

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By: Snapper - 12th November 2003 at 00:11

And concrete hardstandings.

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By: Snapper - 12th November 2003 at 00:11

“but does he also have a 900yrd piece of grass nearby? hehehe”

Yep.

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By: David Burke - 11th November 2003 at 23:45

Next time your at North Weald have a look through the hanger doors and see how some warbirds are kept in containers.

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By: At6Pilot2B - 11th November 2003 at 23:44

Originally posted by Snapper
My brother has some barns just down the road that he’s willing to let storage space in.

but does he also have a 900yrd piece of grass nearby? hehehe

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By: At6Pilot2B - 11th November 2003 at 23:43

[i]accessible to a far greater
number of people than some privately owned Mustangs that rarely see the light of day.[/B]

well i can name three privately owned P-51 that get seen by a hell of a lot of people, and closer than they would ever get to them in a museum.

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By: David Burke - 11th November 2003 at 22:55

The choice of the RAFM to receive the Mustang seems a logical choice to me. Many people have chosen in the past to donate
machines to museums in their ‘golden’ years for want of a better
word. The Mustang is a pristine example of the breed – what would be gained by having a fibreglass example instead ? The notion of a museum is to preserve artifacts for future generations which can be used as good examples of their type. A composite machine might look good on the outside but the only way we can have the genuine article is to have a machine that has been retired from flying intact.
The Mustang is a product of British necessity followed
by operational use and the inspired genius of RR at Hucknall in
giving her real legs with the Merlin. The vast majority of British
and American pilots who gave their lives in the type did so in the skies over Europe – I think it’s incredibly important to the aviation history of this country to have a Mustang on display at Hendon
to show their sacrifice.
Whilst some might say it’s a waste to have her grounded –
as the owner he can have the pleasure of knowing his prize
possesion will be on public display and accessible to a far greater
number of people than some privately owned Mustangs that rarely see the light of day.

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By: Snapper - 11th November 2003 at 22:36

My brother has some barns just down the road that he’s willing to let storage space in.

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By: At6Pilot2B - 11th November 2003 at 21:51

Originally posted by Yak 11 Fan
As I’ve said before, if they don’t want it I can find a good home for it 😉

na, you garage isn’t big enough, and we would have to put a second floor on the hangar, hehehe 😀

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 11th November 2003 at 21:41

Originally posted by D R
RAFM don’t seem to eager to hold on to there ‘composite’ Mustang, its now at Cosford and im not sure they are that bothered with it

As I’ve said before, if they don’t want it I can find a good home for it 😉

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By: D R - 11th November 2003 at 21:37

RAFM don’t seem to eager to hold on to there ‘composite’ Mustang, its now at Cosford and im not sure they are that bothered with it?:confused:

Valid point made about Duxfords AAM ‘Airfix’ Mustang.

Any who he who owns Mustang gets to do what he likes with it! and good luck with it!

Thank you for your kind gesture!

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By: At6Pilot2B - 11th November 2003 at 21:06

Originally posted by Flat 12×2

1 less flying Mustang is hardly a disaster out of how many still flying ?

but i bet i can give you a list of people who would have bought a flying mustang, seems daft to give it to a museum… can’t always understand people.

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By: Ant.H - 11th November 2003 at 19:13

As Mike J says,I was referring to the Duck as a decent P51,as opposed to the lash-up now at Cosford.
Although my instincts are to agree with those who say it’s a shame that the Duck has been grounded,the more I use my head,the more sense it’s grounding makes.
To add to the reasons I gave in the previous post,we have to remember that the UK-based flyers cannot keep flying forever-some may be lost in accidents or sold abroad etc.If you had to place a bet on which Mustang would still be extant in the UK in say 30 years’ time,which would be your safest bet?IMHO it would be the Duck by far.According to the article about Tullius in last month’s Flypast,his aim is to try and make sure that a P51 is preserved in the UK as a lasting tribute to all those who flew them from here in WW2,and I think the placing of the Duck in the RAFM is the best way of going about it.
Ok,so it’s a shame she won’t fly,but there are numerous others still flying,many of which are not nearly as original as Tullius’ machine.

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By: Flat 12x2 - 11th November 2003 at 17:15

I don’t know the history of Bob & his Mustang, but I could fully understand if he has a sentimental attachment to it & so has given it to the RAFM where it will stay ‘forever’ ? protected rather than a new owner having an accident & destroying it. If its as original as others have said then that is another reason for it to be in a museum for as time goes by the flyers will become less & less original (some of them must already be nearly new & doesn’t that make them….um.. replicas ?)

Yes I agree with MarkV that most visitors would not be bothered/notice let alone understand original v restored or even a glass full-size model. But that dosent mean that it should not be there.

1 less flying Mustang is hardly a disaster out of how many still flying ?

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