As a by-product of the comments on the Lansen in my Svedinos report, I was prompted to look up more in my Swedish Historical Aviation periodicals. This is a brief background that I found in SFT 1/02, translated and summarised by myself.
Saab Lansen models
4 prototypes, 32-1 to -4
32-1: First flew 3 November 1952 with an Avon RA 2 engine, no reheat.
32-2; First flew 15 December 1953 with an Avon RA 7R, the version which became the RM 5. With reheat, made by Rolls-Royce.
A 32A: 285 built, 32001-32285, with 15 airframes becoming the S 32C series. 4 x 22 mm cannonsand could carry bombs, rockets and anti-ship missile Rb 304.Served with F 17, F 14, F 6, F 7 and F 15 (from F 14).A few saw out their time at F 11.
S 32C: Reconnaissance version, 30 initially ordered and a further 15 taken from A 32A production (see above). 32901-32945. Unarmed, equipped with sea search radar, cameras and flares when necessary for night photography. Served mostly with F 11, but 5 S 32Cs were based at F 21 from 1959-61.
J 32B: All-weather fighter to replace J 33 Venom. More powerful engine, RM 6A fitted, hence “sport” model. 4 x 30 mm cannon, rockets and IR missile Rb 24 Sidewinder. 120 ordered (32501-32620), mainly based at F 1 and F 12.One squadron moved in 1961 from F 12 to F 21 and in 1966 F 4 took over four J 32Bs from F 1 when it acquired the J 35F Draken.
Target tug squadron: 24 J 32Bs were modified for target towing at the Malmslätt target towing facility as J 32D and electronic jamming, J 32E.”Ordinary” J 32Bs were also used for general purposes. This facility was closed in June 1997.
By: Papa Lima - 21st October 2006 at 12:43
It looks very forlorn – there’s plenty of space for it in the Aeroseum at Gothenburg!
By: SierraEchoFred - 21st October 2006 at 12:18
Latest upload found : http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0822063/M/
pic was taken on the 11 April last year
By: JetBlast - 21st October 2006 at 00:19
G-BMSG by Rolf Carlsson.
Does anyone have a recent photo of G-BMSG (yes I know I have asked this question before), we hear quite a bit about XS458, but never anything about Cranfields other Classic Jet Gem.
By: SierraEchoFred - 19th October 2006 at 18:34
I recall a Lansen being ferried via Lossiemouth to the USA, years later I saw one in a TV action series filmed in the uSa,possibly Airwolf.
Four Lansens, all of the A 32A-version, were exported in the mid-1980s. Reson for this were different exchangedeals made by the Swedish Air Force Museum. These were the last A 32A flying in Swedish service, and all came from the same unit: Försökscentralen (FC. Trial and test unit) based at Malmen, South of Linköping.
32028 FC-28 became G-BMSG (del’d 8.9.86)
32120 FC-20 became N4767R (del’d 19.4.84)
32209 FC-29 became N5468X (del’d 20.9.85)
32284 FC-24 became N4432V (del’d 20.6.85) dual contr. equ.
The N-reg Lansens were ferried by Terry Kingsley, G-BMSG by Rolf Carlsson.
N4767R (32120) routed Malmen – Malmö/Sturup – Snornoway – Lossiemouth (problems with the oxygen was fixed there) – Reykjavik – Söndre Strömfjord – Frobisher – Montreal on its way to Chino, CA.
32209 did its last flight 28.8.85 (TTSN 1995 hrs). As N5468X it routed 20.9.85 Malmen – Sturup – Stanstead – Cranfield. Here it was hangared over the winther and contiued West 10.6.86: Snornoway – Keflavik – Söndre Strömfjord – Frobisher – Fort Chimo – Septiles – Motreal – Toronto – NASA Langley Research Center and later on to Chino.
By: scotavia - 19th October 2006 at 14:07
Lansen trivia
I recall a Lansen being ferried via Lossiemouth to the USA, years later I saw one in a TV action series filmed in the uSa,possibly Airwolf.
By: daniel-k - 19th October 2006 at 07:53
Not much to add, yes it can be made air worthy again, but most likely no. The engine and other bits and pieces will be removed/replaced in due time.
(Was busy celebrating my birthday yesterday – a very nice day inside the Aeroseum.) 🙂
By: SierraEchoFred - 18th October 2006 at 23:30
According to a posting on the SFF forum there are about 15 hrs left on the engine in 32512 and a lot of other items were running out of time. So a quite big o/h was needed. Instead the VVF-guys at Såtenäs decided to do some work on 32606, which had better component status regarding TBO etc, and place 32512 with Aeroseum in long time storage as reserv to the flying 32606 and 32620 – and at the same time 32512 became a nice showpice.
PL – if you want to read the posting I mention, here’s a link:
By: Papa Lima - 18th October 2006 at 22:41
Mike, my photo was taken in August (the day before my birthday – nice present!) at Säve. However that aircraft is now inside the Aeroseum cavern, although I seem to remember being told that it could fly again – any comment, Daniel K?
By: SierraEchoFred - 18th October 2006 at 22:35
Mike J:
At least two J 32s are currently airwothy here in Sweden. And there is a A 32A under restoration at Såtenäs, it will problaby fly again in approx one-two years time: http://www1.airpics.com/showimg.php?imgid=98558
None of the A 32As exported during the mid-80s are flying nowdays, at leat to my knowledge. Some work has been done on one of the N-reg a/c lately, it will be intresting to see what happens.
Papa Lima:
Not a big one 🙂
Yep, I saw it. But I felt I could perhaps be a little bit to much also doing a comment on that 😉 …and it was spotted by someone else
By: Papa Lima - 18th October 2006 at 22:00
OK, my mistake, as usual I was in a hurry. “1966 övertog F 4 J 32B från F 1” see why I got it wrong?
Have you spotted the picture mistake in the Svedino report yet?
I will try to fix it when someone (apart from MikeJ) notices it!
By: SierraEchoFred - 18th October 2006 at 21:55
Two squadrons of F 4 recived J 32Bs from F 1 and F 12 in the late 60s – more like 40 a/c then just four 😉
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