Lufthansa about to buy new planes

I have read the whole F.T. article by now, it says that LH will ask Boeing and Airbus for offers. But demands from both Airbus and Boeing that they have offer a more modernised version of the 737 or A320 Family.
So if you remember the thread in which Boeing announces that some of the developments of the 7E7 will go into the 737s, it is easier for Boeing to do that because of its work on the 7E7 then Airbus with its work on the A380.

The C-Series which is likely to be chosen as the new LH regional jet-plane will be a replacement for Lufthansas Avros and older CRJ-200s.
The oldest 737s are built 1986 and are now about 18 years old.

agreed

Have you all forgot the Canadair Bombardier C-series?! But those are maybe a bit too small. What’s wrong with their current 737’s? I think the A320 series will be chosen.

The C-Series which is likely to be chosen as the new LH regional jet-plane will be a replacement for Lufthansas Avros and older CRJ-200s.
The oldest 737s are built 1986 and are now about 18 years old.

Have you all forgot the Canadair Bombardier C-series?! But those are maybe a bit too small. What’s wrong with their current 737’s? I think the A320 series will be chosen.

I cant see LH buying anything except Airbus to replace the 737s because fleet commality is very important to airline these day.Airbus for short haul and a mix for long haul.Thats just the way I read it maybe Im wrong but AF and BA are doing it.

Well, I only can repeat myself I think it will be the 737NG. Lufthansa always had a mixed short haul fleet and went very well with that.
E.G. Easy-Jet is doing the same with a mixed fleet of A319s and 737-700s and the 2nd largest german carrier always a Boeing Customer announced that they will buy EADS-Airplanes instead of Boeing and that they will have a mixed 737-700 and-800 fleet with the A320 family.

I cant see LH buying anything except Airbus to replace the 737s because fleet commality is very important to airline these day.Airbus for short haul and a mix for long haul.Thats just the way I read it maybe Im wrong but AF and BA are doing it.

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I really hope so for the B717 line. I think it’s similar to the F100 line, a great product, too early! If LH buys into the B717 then other airlines “may” follow suit…

I agree

I would opt for the B717 as well, such an excellent aircraft. Performance where needed, quietest in it’s class, modern avionics package, and a proven airframe! What more could any carrier wish for in that market?

a good discount lol.

Despite it obvious pluses over the Airbus product the 717 has in this field I still expect LH to go with Airbus

Why should Lufthansa buy a new aircraft familie?

and why not?

If an aircraft suites their requirements and fits into their plans… theres no reason NOT to buy the aircraft. Regardless if it is Boeing, Airbus, Canadair or any other

I read about one year ago in the “Financial Times Deutschland” an article that Boeing had plans in a 717-Family and Lufthansa is very interested in that. Thanks to yahoo.de I found this article again and here is the interesting part, although it is first published 6.6.2003 :

“Chancen bei der Lufthansa
Boeing sieht mit einer künftigen 717-Familie auch die Chance, ältere kleinere 737-Versionen (-500/-300) mit 103 oder 123 Sitzen abzulösen. Die Lufthansa fliegt beispielsweise 65 Maschinen dieser Versionen, die zwischen 1986 und 1991 ausgeliefert wurden. Die 717 gilt mit ihren zwei von Rolls-Royce Deutschland gebauten BR715-Triebwerken als besonders umweltfreundlich und leise. Rund 40 Prozent des Flugzeugs wird in Europa gefertigt.”

I will give you a short translation of this article :

With a future 717-Family Boeing sees a chance to replace older and smaller 737-Versions (-500/-300) with 103 or 123 seats.
Lufthansa for example is flying 65 of these aircrafts all built between 1986 and 1991. The 717 with its 2 Rolly-Royce BR-715 engines which were built in Germany is supposed to be very ecologically and quiet. About 40 % of the plane is manufactured in Europe.

Interesting.

LH and the 717…. that would be an interesting development.

I read about one year ago in the “Financial Times Deutschland” an article that Boeing had plans in a 717-Family and Lufthansa is very interested in that. Thanks to yahoo.de I found this article again and here is the interesting part, although it is first published 6.6.2003 :

“Chancen bei der Lufthansa
Boeing sieht mit einer künftigen 717-Familie auch die Chance, ältere kleinere 737-Versionen (-500/-300) mit 103 oder 123 Sitzen abzulösen. Die Lufthansa fliegt beispielsweise 65 Maschinen dieser Versionen, die zwischen 1986 und 1991 ausgeliefert wurden. Die 717 gilt mit ihren zwei von Rolls-Royce Deutschland gebauten BR715-Triebwerken als besonders umweltfreundlich und leise. Rund 40 Prozent des Flugzeugs wird in Europa gefertigt.”

I will give you a short translation of this article :

With a future 717-Family Boeing sees a chance to replace older and smaller 737-Versions (-500/-300) with 103 or 123 seats.
Lufthansa for example is flying 65 of these aircrafts all built between 1986 and 1991. The 717 with its 2 Rolly-Royce BR-715 engines which were built in Germany is supposed to be very ecologically and quiet. About 40 % of the plane is manufactured in Europe.

Why should Lufthansa buy a new aircraft familie?

One last thought : Why not the 717 ??

I read about one year ago in the “Financial Times Deutschland” an article that Boeing had plans in a 717-Family and Lufthansa is very interested in that. Thanks to yahoo.de I found this article again and here is the interesting part, although it is first published 6.6.2003 :

“Chancen bei der Lufthansa
Boeing sieht mit einer künftigen 717-Familie auch die Chance, ältere kleinere 737-Versionen (-500/-300) mit 103 oder 123 Sitzen abzulösen. Die Lufthansa fliegt beispielsweise 65 Maschinen dieser Versionen, die zwischen 1986 und 1991 ausgeliefert wurden. Die 717 gilt mit ihren zwei von Rolls-Royce Deutschland gebauten BR715-Triebwerken als besonders umweltfreundlich und leise. Rund 40 Prozent des Flugzeugs wird in Europa gefertigt.”

I will give you a short translation of this article :

With a future 717-Family Boeing sees a chance to replace older and smaller 737-Versions (-500/-300) with 103 or 123 seats.
Lufthansa for example is flying 65 of these aircrafts all built between 1986 and 1991. The 717 with its 2 Rolly-Royce BR-715 engines which were built in Germany is supposed to be very ecologically and quiet. About 40 % of the plane is manufactured in Europe.

Well a lot of german companies built parts for the 737 aswell and many german carriers fly 737s, like Air Berlin, Hamburg Airlines, Hapag Lloyd etc….

Like I said before, I still believe that Lufthansa will stay an airline which operates both, AIirbus and Boeing. See Air France for example :
Air France is like Lufthansa one of the most important Airbus customers but also flies 767 and 777s.
It is not that way of thinking, that Lufthansa will replace its old 737s with new ones. Maybe Boeing makes a good price for the old 737s and resell them later as freighters. Used Lufthansa planes are always very well liked on the second hand market, Boeing knows that aswell.

The 737-600 fits into the 100-120 seat requirement.

I’ll nbot be surprised if Airbus annoucne they get the order though. Its almost a forgone conclusion.. German carrier orders partly german hardware… makes sense.

Well, I still believe that Lufthansa will stay a Airbus/Boeing Airline rather then an only Airbus operator although Lufthansa was favoring Airbus in the last time.

I always believed that Lufthansa will order the 7E7 as a A300-600 replacement, but since I read today that Airbus is plannning a A350 as an answer to the 7E7 I am not so sure about it.
Because A350 pilots could switch between A330 and A340 which are already in the fleet of Lufthansa and that airplane -if it it is really to be build – would make a lot more sense for Lufthansa then the 7E7.
But because of the 737s which are already also already in the fleet of Lufthansa and the compatibility of the 737 older generations with the NGs it would make greater sense to buy these as the new Boeing aircraft in the fleet of Lufthansa.

And as for the A300-600 and A310, The A340-600 has joined the fleet.

The 346 is a very different aircraft from the 310 though.

I agree about the regional jets. LH seems to favour Bombardier over Embraer, so I’d be fairly surprised if they selected the ERJ-170/190 series. In relation to the 737 replacement, I’d be quite surprised if they opted for the 73G (unless it’s to keep Boeing sweet). I’d think the 319 (and possibly the 318 too) would have the edge.

In the magazine Airliner World says that 1 version will carry 110-115passengers and the larger ones 130-135. The CRJ-200 and 700 hold around 50-70 passengers so there will be a large increase in capacity.

And as for the A300-600 and A310, The A340-600 has joined the fleet.