Luftwaffe losses

Thanks guys, it’s obviously not unknown material so I shan’t bother with any more
Appreciate your help

That’s from the Luftwaffe Losses CD from the “Anglo-Deutsches Erinnerungs Gruppe”. It’s on ebay from time to time.

You might get a beter idea by posting here:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Dave

Thanks Geoff, I’ve posted to 12 O’clock High and the Luftwaffe Fighter Pilots forums. See what happens.

Dave,

I’m afraid the above fall outside the coverage of the books I have, as they all seem to be over the sea or in France.

I’d try the 12 o’clock high board first, as being your best bet.

Sorry.

Geoff.

The ace I am researching is Gp Capt Edward Preston “Bill” Wells DSO, DFC and Bar.

Bill flew in the Battle of Britain and later commanded 485 (NZ) Squadron, and then several wings. I have a list here of several of the aircraft he shot down, damaged or probably shot down. As I’m currently putting together a page on him for my site, (he was born & bred in Cambridge, NZ) I thought it’s be interesting to add in some detail of the aircraft he combatted with, such as the serial number, pilot/crew, the actual fate. These are the ones I know of, if you can fill any details in I’d be very grateful.

DESTROYED

17th of October 1940, Messerschmitt Bf109 shot down into the sea off Boulogne

2nd of November 1940 Bf109 (?)

11th of November 1940 4 x Fiat CR42s (only claimed one)

27th of November 1940 Bf109

5th of July 1941 Bf109

19th of August 1941 over Gravelines (Combat 11.10hrs) Me 109 destroyed

18th of September 1941 – west of Rouen Combat 1500hrs Me 109E destroyed. 3 sec. Burst

21st of September 1941 (Combat 1530-1540hrs)
– one Bf109F over Desvres 3 sec. burst
– another Bf109F 5 miles west of Boulogne 2 sec. burst.

16th of August 1941 Me 109E over Calais Marck aerodrome

PROBABLY DESTROYED

29th of October 1940 Bf109

17th of September 1941 east of target area (Marquise) (Combat 1740hrs) Me 109F

2nd of October 1941 Bf109

DAMAGED
27th of November 1940 damaged a German Henschel HS126 fighter

5th of July 1941 Bf109.

19th of August 1941 over Gravelines Combat 1110hrs Me 109 damaged

At this stage I haven’t got any of his later war claims available.

Dave,

There are Luftwaffe losses for the Battle of Britain period in ‘The Battle of Britain, then & now’ which includes aircraft that came down in the UK, at sea, or in France. The latter is only I think for units involved in the battle. There is also ‘The Blitz, then & now’ which has Luftwaffe losses for the whole war, although only aircraft which crashed in the U.K. or just off the coast are listed. The names of the crew and their fates are given, plus aircraft markings, details of the sortie that it was on, time of loss, and who shot them down, where these details are known.

I have both, so send me a list of what aircraft you’re interested & I’ll see what I can come up with.

Geoff.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Thanks Don. I’ll give those links a try.

Good to see you back too mate, even if it’s temporary.

Well that didn’t work did it?

Dave, I had a moment to chill out in front of the PC and did a quick skim of the forum and here you are asking a question I’m very interested in (but by NO means an expert). The quick answer is that most of the Luftwaffe records were destroyed near the end of the war. But lots of people are trying to piece together the answers nowadays. Two websites you’ll be interested in are:
http://pub157.ezboard.com/bluftwaffeexperten71774
http://www.luftwaffe.be/

The first one (the Experten Board) is fascinating … that strange aircraft Flood and others are trying to figure out is discussed there along with all sorts of good stuff. There is a fantastic claims list (Tony Wood’s – look in Allied Losses under Pilots and Aircrew for the link) it’s a great resource – but of course the inverse of what you’re looking for.

I think if you post your (specific combat) queries there you may find they get answered.

cheers D