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Macchi C202 at Farnborough

Proudly on display at the front of the impressive Finmeccanica stand at Farnborough is a Macchi C202, marked as 97-2.

I have been searching for some history of this airframe, but have come up blank.

There seem to be only a couple of these airframes extant, so wondered if it was a replica, which would be a shame. It would be a nice to be surprised by a newly restored airframe.

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By: mike currill - 25th July 2008 at 10:53

Will it be at Legends next year. All right I’ll get my coat, someone had to ask though.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 21st July 2008 at 11:39

Macchi replica

I was at farnborough al week and had a chance to look at this a/c you can see through from the undercarriage bay right out of the cockpit canopy also not a rivet or panel line in sight the fuselage is as smooth as a babys bum

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By: airart - 19th July 2008 at 16:24

Just had confirmation from my friends in Italy that the C.205 at Farnborough is in fact a replica.

It is one of two built in fibreglass, together with a C.202, from the original factory drawings at a cost of 40,000 Euro each.

Quite a good price if you want one in your front garden!!

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By: blurrkup - 19th July 2008 at 00:07

Its also missing the undercarriage doors from the centre of the wing.

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By: ALBERT ROSS - 18th July 2008 at 22:18

This is a fibreglass replica according to the news section of the latest issue of Aeroplane Monthly. And a nice one it is too, according to the article several of these replica’s have been or are being made using computer and original drawings. Would be nice to have some of these distributed in major collections around the world.

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If this is a replica, it’s VERY convincing. Here is the original MM9546 in the Vigna di Valle Museum. The only difference I can immediately see is the lack of the aerial behind the cockpit. Otherwise I would be totally convinced!:cool:

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By: Pete Truman - 18th July 2008 at 16:13

No problem with the Italian Air Force displaying fascist markings. Aircraft at Vigna di Valle museum are full of them, some carrying the original fascist decals for the small fuselage and rudder markings. This is because the present Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana – AMI) is considered as being a direct discendent of the wartime Regia Aeronautica.

There’s no reluctance to even display the markings of the Aviazione Nazionale Italiana, that fought from the Nazi-occupied northern Italy post 8 September 1943. In fact the G.55 (rebuilt from a G-59) bears the markings of this air force.

The markings shown on this Macchi C.205 (replica or not!) are those of the period of the Regia Aeronautica Co-Belligerante, September 1943 up to the institution of the present AMI on 1 March 1947.

Thanks for your very interesting reply, I’m glad to see that the Italians aren’t afraid to historically show their past, not that I thought for one moment that they would. However much the PC brigade think how murky it may have been in recent history, you could go on forever, to coin a phrase from a famous film, ‘What did the Romans ever do for us?’
I hate to see those German based WW2 aircraft with the silly little German flags under their tailplanes, I’m aware that there is a fear of a latent Nazi skinhead right wing ‘uprising’ but is it so threatening in the scheme of things today.
I see you are from Malta, after the traumas you suffered during WW2, are you personally offended by the sight of Nazi and Fascist insignia on restored aircraft, fair enough if you are, I can understand that, especially if you have had past personal tragedies in your family.
OOps, have gone off a Farnbrough thread, my apologies, got carried away with that one.

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By: airart - 18th July 2008 at 14:00

No problem with the Italian Air Force displaying fascist markings. Aircraft at Vigna di Valle museum are full of them, some carrying the original fascist decals for the small fuselage and rudder markings. This is because the present Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare Italiana – AMI) is considered as being a direct discendent of the wartime Regia Aeronautica.

There’s no reluctance to even display the markings of the Aviazione Nazionale Italiana, that fought from the Nazi-occupied northern Italy post 8 September 1943. In fact the G.55 (rebuilt from a G-59) bears the markings of this air force.

The markings shown on this Macchi C.205 (replica or not!) are those of the period of the Regia Aeronautica Co-Belligerante, September 1943 up to the institution of the present AMI on 1 March 1947.

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By: Pete Truman - 18th July 2008 at 09:06

Pity it wasn’t at Le………., replica or not, it looks very nice.

The Germans aren’t allowed to display swastikas on their flying aircraft, do the Italians have a similar ban on their own wartime fascist markings, not that I would have any objections to them.

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By: Cees Broere - 18th July 2008 at 07:44

This is a fibreglass replica according to the news section of the latest issue of Aeroplane Monthly. And a nice one it is too, according to the article several of these replica’s have been or are being made using computer and original drawings. Would be nice to have some of these distributed in major collections around the world.

Cheers

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By: warhawk69 - 17th July 2008 at 20:41

I will have to have a proper look tomorrow as it looked like a fiber glass replica to me!:D
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By: BigPhil - 17th July 2008 at 18:56

Lovely aeroplane! But it’s not an original.

This C.205 bears serial MM.9546 and is preserved………….

Not a replica though, which was my meaning.

Thank you for the info. 🙂

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By: BigPhil - 17th July 2008 at 18:53

Wow! very nice, any more?;)

Yes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/I8Spotters/Airshows%202008/IMGP8982-Macchi-Farn-14-7-08-PhilWh.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/I8Spotters/Airshows%202008/IMGP8978-Macchi-Farn-14-7-08-PhilWh.jpg

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By: JägerMarty - 16th July 2008 at 11:55

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/I8Spotters/Airshows%202008/IMGP8979.jpg
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Wow! very nice, any more?;)

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By: airart - 16th July 2008 at 06:39

Lovely aeroplane! But it’s not an original.

This C.205 bears serial MM.9546 and is preserved at the Italian Air Force Museum of Vigna di Valle (Rome). This was one of a number of ex-C.202s transformed into C.205s by Macchi for export to Egypt. In fact it originally was a C.202 Serie X built by Breda and it’s modification into C.205 was completed on 3 December 1949. It never went to Egypt as this particular batch of C.205s fell victim to an Israeli raid on the Aermacchi factory, in an effort to dissuade the company from delivering them… which seems to have worked!

Two other C.205s exist in Italy, another ex-C.202 (MM.91818) similarly converted by Macchi in March 1949 and intended for Egypt. It was restored to flying condition by Aermacchi in 1980 (registered I-MCVE) until it was severely damaged in an accident. It was later restored to static condition and is now at the National Museum of Science and Technology, Milan.

The only original C.205 that survives is MM.92166 which, however, is fitted with a fixed tailwheel and tail cone from a C.202. Built in June 1943 it was taken on charge by the Regia Aeronautica the following month. Served with the 378a Squadriglia (51º Stormo) in Sardegna (marked 378-2) and on 22 July it shot down a P-40 and shared another P-40 victory. It later shot down a B-26 Maurader. Following Italy’s capitulation it served with the Co-Belligerent Air Force and later with the newly-formed Aeronautica Militare Italiana (Italian Air Force). Also formed part of the planned delivery to Egypt and spent many years at the Milan museum. It was acquired by Aermacchi towards the end of the 1980s and is presently preserved at Venegono Superiore (Varese).

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By: Globex - 15th July 2008 at 23:33

Nice !
I was going to see the vulcan this weekend but this is an unexpected bonus

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By: BigPhil - 15th July 2008 at 22:37

Pics please! 🙂

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By: JägerMarty - 15th July 2008 at 22:00

Pics please! 🙂

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By: BigPhil - 15th July 2008 at 21:24

Ah, that’s because it’s not a C202, but a C205V, and original.

‘Also on display is a Macchi MC.205V ‘Veltro’ (MM9546 coded ’97-2′ it was also painted as MM9345/155-6 previously). The MC.205 of which 262 were built, were developed from the MC.202 first flew in 1942. The aircraft on display was converted from a MC.202 and was built at Breda in 1942. ‘

From the Italian AF museum, Rome.

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