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Main gear firefly -tyre size

Main gear firefly

The tyre on the pic (from northern Norway) is said to be from the main gear of a Fairey Firefly. Another rumour is that the tyre is from the tail wheel of a Lancaster, but that’s less likely.

The size of the tyre is 900 – 12.

Does anyone have info about the tyre sizes used on the Fireflies (and tail wheels on Lancasters) that can verify which plane the tyre comes from?

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By: blackjet604 - 25th February 2014 at 15:33

Know that this wheel is an odd one but it does match a type I am searching for for a pre WWII biplane project (civil type). I am looking for a pair of 9.5 x 12 aircraft wheels that were low pressure optional equipment for the type. This was a common wheel back in 1930-35 for agricultural and soft field applications.

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By: archieraf - 16th February 2012 at 23:09

Thanks for clarifying that!

The only Swordfish-loss in the Helgeland-area is this one:
http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/leka2.html

The wreck was dismantled by locals, and its quite likely that some parts – like this wheel – could have ended up on neighbouring islands.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th February 2012 at 23:07

Swordfish tyre

Ah, but it does look more than a teensie-weensie bit like a Swordfish tyre, don’t it – and it is a 12-inch rim:p

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By: H.M.S Vulture - 16th February 2012 at 20:35

Not Firefly.
9.5 X 12″ is a Swordfish tyre size.:)

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th February 2012 at 23:29

Spit wheel?

OK. I’ll just shut up:o:D

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By: Mark12 - 15th February 2012 at 22:37

Didn’t the early Spitfire have a 12 inch wheel rim and a tyre like this, Mark12?

It just occurred to me when I saw your name next to the latest post on this thread.

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Err..no.

Early Spitfire had a 10″ wheel followed by a split rim 10.25″ then a 12″ and on the last Seafire a 13″.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th February 2012 at 22:33

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Didn’t the early Spitfire have a 12 inch wheel rim and a tyre like this, Mark12?

It just occurred to me when I saw your name next to the latest post on this thread.

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By: Mark12 - 15th February 2012 at 22:00

Main wheel for the Firefly FR 5 is the AH 9471.

That is the 30 x 9.00 – 15.

In ‘Dunlopspeak’ that is a 15″ wheel.

The 15″ diameter is measured at the point where the tyre sits on the rim.

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By: pagen01 - 15th February 2012 at 21:31

The rim size – 12″ – at least doesnt exclude a firefly.

I would say it would, I’ve seen four Firefly type wheels in a store near where I work, they are big and I would think that they are a good 2ft across.

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By: archieraf - 15th February 2012 at 21:24

Thanks to all for the help.

I agree that the wheels look massive compared to the pilots head on that pic, but it looks more “normal” on other pics.
To me it looks as if the wheels are the same size, or slightly bigger than the roundel. I guess that the 11.25″ refers to the width of the tyre in inches, while the 950 (not 900, that was a typo)refers to the height, or diameter of the tyre in millimeters.
The rim size – 12″ – at least doesnt exclude a firefly.

Have to dig deeper into old pics and see if there is more info to be found.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th February 2012 at 12:13

The mainwheel on the Firefly (FI and NFII) was a Dunlop AH10245, size 11.25″ x 12.00″. This is the same as the Barracuda and (early) Firebrand.

The tyre is listed as 11.25″ x 12.00″, Part No. I.E.E.8, P.A.36 or G.A.30.

It’s definitely not a Lancaster tail wheel tyre.

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By: thawes - 15th February 2012 at 11:20

Not sure if it helps, but this photo I took at Biggin Hill in 1954 shows a Firefly. Compare the pilot’s head with the size of the wheels – the wheels look massive.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Biggin%20Hill%20Early%201950s/RNFirefly.jpg

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By: pagen01 - 15th February 2012 at 10:08

Wouldn’t 12″ be a tad too small for a Firefly?
If he doesn’t see the thread first, HMSVulture will be worth PM’ing for Firelfy clarification.

Keith, I remember on a trrip to visit the RNHF years ago that one of their guys telling us that they stocked up on Nimrod tyres as they were a perfect fit on Firefly wheels.

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By: Arabella-Cox - 15th February 2012 at 08:04

Tyre i/d

Lancaster tailwheel tyres have a surprisingly small hub, around 9 ins, as I recall. It’s also an anti-shimmy tyre on the Lanc tail and smaller than the one pictured.

It’s a main from something. It looks like Swordfish to me. Could it be, that far north?

Not much help but my two penn’orth.

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By: Keith Gaff - 14th February 2012 at 23:39

Firefly tyre size

During my younger days I worked on a Firefly belonging to the Moorabbin Air Museum here in Australia. I can’t remember the tyre size for Firefly main wheels but I know the size is no longer manufactured. We used Hawker Siddley Nimrod nose wheel tyres which have the same id and vary slightly in width and od. Hope this helps.

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