Major Delays UK Airports today, 10th August.

Thought this seemed like the most appropiate thread to post this in…

Does anyone know how strict security are being about the size of hand baggage? I fly down to LHR on Wednesday, and I measured my bag yesterday. It seemed to be quite close to the limit that they have set, and that was without the bulk of a camera bag been in there.

Thanks for any replies :).

Just watching Sky news about United 923 LHR to Washington,having been diverted to Boston under fighter escort 😮
A woman passenger has a screwdriver,matches ans vasaline on her person.
How did this happen 😮 ,all those items have been banned in the cabin since 9/11.
It is said that the women was acting strangley and had a note about al Qaeda.
The United 737 N648UA is now at the end of the runway at Boston Logan and all the bags are being placed on the taxiways and searched there.
A very seroius thing to happen at theis time of hightened security and somebody is going to get there ass kicked.More bad news for BAA
United have just relased a statement that they dont think the women have any tie’s to terrorest’s :confused:
The more I watch the news reports it sounds like a lots of over reaction.

Paul

Anyone know what the situation is like at certain airports? Wanting to know what the restrictions are at MAN. Thanks!

As I haven’t seen it on here already, I thought I would put this on here. A BA flight to New York last night returned to London Heathrow as a mobile phone rang onboard.
Story from a passenger onboard here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4791595.stm

Another guy on our PPL course (which as mentioned previously I AM NOW A PPL HOLDER!) e-mailed me last night to say that their flight wasn’t delayed too badly Friday night…but his laptop has been damaged.

What kind of rights are passengers going to have regarding damage. Nobody would usually check a laptop, therefore the damage is the fault of the airline. Will the airlines be able to defend themselves by passing the buck onto the Department of Homeland Security/DFT?

Restrictions have been relaxed by the DFT.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_about/documents/page/dft_about_612280.hcsp

Great news for all concerned.

Flex

Finally some common sense …

Thing is, you have to check laptops

Skymonster, just to go off subject for a second. I can’t speak for bmi or any other airline, but prior to the current security situation BA have allowed you to take your laptop onboard, recognising that its safety and security cannot be guaranteed in the baggage system.

This was true of the previous handluggage policy and remains the case with the new policy introduced earlier this month (before the government restrictions were put in place).

http://www.britishairways.com/travel/bagcabin/public/en_gb

1L.

Restrictions have been relaxed by the DFT.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_about/documents/page/dft_about_612280.hcsp

Great news for all concerned.

Flex

Are you a complete fool? It is common knowledge that these sort of things can be adapted to do other things….like setting off bombs.

Well Done to all the Police, Special Branch and Airport Security accross the nation.

No I am not a complete fool, I am merely a very regular air traveller who could predict the kind of chaos and significant commercial difficulties that were created. As soon as Willie Walsh, Michael O’Leary and the likes started saying the whole thing was unsustainable, changes were almost inevitable. And as events this morning have proven, I was somewhat closer to the mark than the doom-mongers who said these restrictions would go on for months.

Andy

Threat Level has been downgraded

Jon

it’s a Weasel

This has to be the most terrifying plot ever devised. Clearly the plan is to stop infidels breeding. Those of us with children will now experience the full horror of the long-haul flight. Those without children will observe and rethink. What an extraordinary, subtle and yet audacious plan.

What absolute over-reaction! Insane. Does anyone, for example, think its reasonable to put car keys in checked bags just because there’s a remote in the key? And then the bag goes missing (as has happened to me on a number of occasions). What then? No chance. What dick-heads they are. I really have no problem being subjected to additional security screening, even if that means processing takes longer, but to put some of these punative restrictions in what can be taken on board in place will just drive people away from the airlines and if it continues in the longer term will destroy the industry.

Andy

Are you a complete fool? It is common knowledge that these sort of things can be adapted to do other things….like setting off bombs.

Well Done to all the Police, Special Branch and Airport Security accross the nation.

I rather suspect that the difference hardly occurs to the families of victims of ETA bombings, Elgan. 🙁

Very true Lance

And being in Ni (if I remember correctly) then you have an even bigger problem. 🙁 Norfolkline do a nice cabin, breakfast and dinner on the Belfast-Birkenhead service, but a bit slower than flying!

Norfolkline are very good and have cinema onboard as well. Larne – Fleetwood aint bad but not as much food given but is about £100-200 cheaper.

Yep in NI but that has only hindered us with vechile insurance!

Andrew, the problem is not so much the laptop itself, its the sensitive data on them which could be “misused” – despite encripting some data, its still not 100% secure.

Andy

Andy PM me as we use technology used by Government Agencies. Not that expensive and no way in hell can be accessed without being authorised!

Does anyone know what the situation is with lighters? Obviously because its liquid I presume that they are a NO, however how are those pax who smoke able to light up once airside? Are matches allowed?

I also see that all air crews are now using the plastic carrier bags and not being allowed to take their usual ‘trolley’ style bags through.

Lighters, cigarettes and matches are still banned anywhere airside. This isn’t too much of a problem in Scotland due to the fact that you can’t smoke anywhere in the terminal due to the ban, but it does mean people can’t light up once they’ve reached their destination.

The rules for staff has now relaxed slightly and they are now able to take bags, although they too are also banned from taking any cigarrettes etc, liquids, perfumes, deoderants, lipsticks through

hey guys was up at ncl yesterday waiting for a mate from gatwick big well done to the staff there keeping a cool head and keeping things running smoothly.

Does anyone know what the situation is with lighters? Obviously because its liquid I presume that they are a NO, however how are those pax who smoke able to light up once airside? Are matches allowed?

I also see that all air crews are now using the plastic carrier bags and not being allowed to take their usual ‘trolley’ style bags through.

Do you think i would be able to get a pencil/pen and paper thru on tuesday!!!

Again, personally i think its most of this week’s incidents are all hype, to keep the public believeing that the billions of pounds spent on the “War on Terror” is justified, and also to try and keep the failing support of Blair’s stance on the Middle East Crisis falling further lower. (I’m not interested in Politics one bit, but this is ovbious!)

Yes, there is a threat, and its been there for years,even before 9/11 even, when the UK were on alert by other well known terror organizations.

This has cost the airline industry in the UK alone, millions of pounds a day, and i can confirm tonight that a number of US citizens have cancelled their reservations in hotels, for the next 2 weeks in a number of UK tourist hot-spots, including my TIC (Tourist Info Centre where i work), Betws-y-Coed, which will only damage the economy even further!

3 weeks today, i travel thru LHR, my god i hope this mess is rectified soon!

I completely agree! I think most clear thinking citizens in Great Britain would accept 6 or 10 airliners blown up as long as its not too much trouble getting aboard the flight they’ve PAID for, AND being able to take carryons aboard.