MajorAircraft Manufacturer – No Survivors ?

Nieuport & General Aircraft Co. Ltd.?

i.e. the British company, not the French?

Anne…?

I would say that there was insufficient there to be classed as a surviving aircraft in either case. I think we are actually talking substantially complete aircraft here. Of course if there’s a data plate surviving amongst the wreckage someone will be asking when it will be at Legends.:D

The Bv155 is substantially complete – OK it was never finished but it looks 95% there – wasn’t it exhibited at Farnborough on it’s wheels after the war at the famous exhibition before being shipped to the USA.

Hell we have Spitfire survivors which started with a lot less……………….

Anything is worth a try though.

True!
I may have been a little too type specific.

Blohm und Voss BV155 – Dunno how complete

http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/blohmvoss/blohmvoss.htm

However Henschel is a possibility
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/henschel/henschel.htm

Only bitsa

I would say that there was insufficient there to be classed as a surviving aircraft in either case. I think we are actually talking substantially complete aircraft here. Of course if there’s a data plate surviving amongst the wreckage someone will be asking when it will be at Legends.:D

Don’t forget all the Scouts and Wasps… ok built by Fairey at Hayes IIRC but based on the P531 design…

Plus, once the company had morphed into the British Hovercraft Corporation the built quite a large number of BN2 Islanders under subcontract to Britten Norman…

And finally… the Black Knight’s at East Fortune and Liverpool and the Black Arrow at the Science Museum…

Zeb

Sorry Scouts and Wasps were Westland and built at Cowes even though, as was rightly said, they were a Saunders-Roe design.

It get’s more complicated the more you think about it. About the only manufacturer I can think of is probably Henschel but someone will probably inform me that there is still a Hs126 or 129 still existant somewhere. Maybe Blohm und Voss would be a candidate?

Blohm und Voss BV155 – Dunno how complete

http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/blohmvoss/blohmvoss.htm

However Henschel is a possibility
http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Luftwaffe/henschel/henschel.htm

Only bitsa

Yes but loads of Fokker Friendships survive!

Fokker

Fokker DR1

while there are many many replica`s ( maybe more than there were ever real DR1`s built)

I believe there are no original DR1`s extant?

It get’s more complicated the more you think about it. About the only manufacturer I can think of is probably Henschel but someone will probably inform me that there is still a Hs126 or 129 still existant somewhere. Maybe Blohm und Voss would be a candidate?

It does, it’s at Solent Sky, and it doesn’t fall into the remit of this thread as it was a prototype.

I was not clear on what I mean’t I was trying to determine the criteria for a Major Manuafacturer- I was typing the original question on my mobile phone. I meant the definition of a ‘Major Manufacturer’ was one that had a least 1 in-service aircraft. So if manufacturer X only existed long enough to produce the X1-Prototype that was evaluated by Y then it did not count..

However, if a Major Manufacturer had NO in service aircraft that survived, but a prototype of their wares did – then it could be deemed that the Major Manufacturer had a survivor..

Googly time.

Schutte-Lanz

Zeppelin

Adrian

I am sure the Saunders Roe jet flying boat survives

It does, it’s at Solent Sky, and it doesn’t fall into the remit of this thread as it was a prototype.

How about Blohm und Voss? Ok… there’s a partial Bv-138, but that’s going to be dust before long. Any others? … no you can’t count the Bv-155, as it was an incomplete prototype.

There are no complete Henschel aircraft either.

Cheers,
Richard

Actually – what about Martin-Baker as a manufacturer with no survivors?

As a general statement, I think they’d take issue with that – they do a good line in bang seats.:p
(O.K. Jeepman, I know you refer to the lack of surviving airframes, just thought that line was a bit unfortunate).

Nashio and PM, read my post more properly!
Jeepman, I forgot about the Skeeter, however they were designed and initiated by Cierva, hey none of their aircraft exist!

sorry pagen, i meant prototype as in not a production aircraft, post edited accordingly

Ben

Ok Ok, it’s a fair cop! I have run out of tenous SARO links, I did really forget all about the helicopters, and didn’t know about the existing Cloud!
Oh and apologies to Nashio, I can se you were clarifying my post now!

Saro Cloud – search and yea shall find.

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=70979

See post 12 for a photo of the Saro Cloud at the Military Museum Prague-Kbely

Allan

Nashio and PM, read my post more properly!
Jeepman, I forgot about the Skeeter, however they were designed and initiated by Cierva, hey none of their aircraft exist!

Did Cierva actually manufacture aircraft themselves?? There are several Cierva designs extant built by other aicraft firms (Avro, DH). But Paul’s original question was regarding major aircraft manufacturers.

Of those the most poorly represented must be Armstrong Whitworth with none of it’s original designs surviving except for the 1959 Argosy.

Roger Smith.

Don’t forget all the Scouts and Wasps… ok built by Fairey at Hayes IIRC but based on the P531 design…

Plus, once the company had morphed into the British Hovercraft Corporation the built quite a large number of BN2 Islanders under subcontract to Britten Norman…

And finally… the Black Knight’s at East Fortune and Liverpool and the Black Arrow at the Science Museum…

Zeb