MD11 Overshoot

If you don’t have anit-lock brakes, you pump the brake petal. That’s how we are taught in the states.

Originally posted by Bmused55
That exactly what you SHOULDN’T do. You just lift of the excelerator and make gentle steering commands with the wheel.

As for an Aircraft I’d imagine its not that easy.

I didnt mean brake i meant foot off the brake.

Originally posted by Jeanske_SN
Nooo!! I hope Varig wants to repair it with their little money.
These accidents mean that the pilot made a mistake.
-Failure to get all wheels down before the end of the touchdown stripes
-Too low Autobrake setting
Can we blame the pilots?

So much speculation, so few facts.

Originally posted by andrewm
In a car it is easy to stop aquaplaning as you take ur foot off the gas and brake but how do you stop the accelation EASILY like a car in a MD11 jet? Reverse thrust yes but wont reduce speed as quickly as a car.

Was it a visual landing as then he might not have touched down on the threshold at the other end due to weather like full ILS CATIII would then he has less space before end of runway as well.

That exactly what you SHOULDN’T do. You just lift of the excelerator and make gentle steering commands with the wheel.

As for an Aircraft I’d imagine its not that easy.

We can always blame the pilot(s). 😉
After all it wouldn’t have happened if he (they) had stayed in bed.

“Human factors”? A little early to pin that.

Best regards
atc pal

In a car it is easy to stop aquaplaning as you take ur foot off the gas and brake but how do you stop the accelation EASILY like a car in a MD11 jet? Reverse thrust yes but wont reduce speed as quickly as a car.

Was it a visual landing as then he might not have touched down on the threshold at the other end due to weather like full ILS CATIII would then he has less space before end of runway as well.

That was a bit of a close one, does anybody know does ( The no blame policy) come in here to protect the pilot.

Originally posted by Jeanske_SN
Nooo!! I hope Varig wants to repair it with their little money.
These accidents mean that the pilot made a mistake.
-Failure to get all wheels down before the end of the touchdown stripes
-Too low Autobrake setting
Can we blame the pilots?

Lets not get too hasty now. It had just rained. Aquaplaning may be at fault here

Nooo!! I hope Varig wants to repair it with their little money.
These accidents mean that the pilot made a mistake.
-Failure to get all wheels down before the end of the touchdown stripes
-Too low Autobrake setting
Can we blame the pilots?

lol

I get it now, thanks:rolleyes:

104 onboard and none died

silly question but how can you have 0:104 Fatalities

Looks like it undershot the runway. Is that dirt or concrete in front of the aircraft?

Well its still standing, that would indicate damage was minimal.

Prolly spend a week in a hangar getting the gear checked then off it goes again

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Date: 28 January 2004
Airline: Varig
Flight No.: 7
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas MD-11
Location: Natal, Brazil
Fatalities: 0:104