Me 262 wreck excavated in Holland

Apparently 130126 was never an Me.262, it is now thought the Germans made a typo in their records. Werk Nr. should indeed be 130026. See also:

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/remnants-me-262-excavated-netherlands.html

Cheers,

Patrick Dirksen
Tristar Aviation

http://www.verliesregister.studiegroepluchtoorlog.nl/zoek-serial.php

130126. Number in picture is 1300261, not WNr.

I think it is 130026.L in the picture ,not 1300261.

That must have been a difficult one to explain by those responsible. I would imagine that a rapid redeployment to the Russian front probably followed?

My father told me a similar story. When he was a “Flakhelfer” (boys in 9. or 10. class) helping at a 8,8 cm Flak unit situated around Wesseling (south of Cologne, petrol refinery), their commanding officer was a Hauptmann der Reserve, (Territorial Captain). One day there was a certain area and height restricted, due to nightfighter operation. When that night there were engines to be heard, this Captain ordered to shoot at that plane anyway. It was a Ju 88 nightfighter, no survivors. The Captain had to go to his Batallion commander, a colonel, in full regalia next morning, and was degraded and sent to the eastern front the same day for disobeing standing orders. At least that is what my father told me.

Michael

Video of the dig here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSDAonD_udo

There aren’t many places to find the WNr on a 262.

One particular survivor had, for many years, an unknown serial. During restoration, it was found in two places only – on the fin fillet fairing, which as a removable panel could be doubtful, and it was the last three only. The other place was on the wing spar sections – three numbers on one side, three numbers on the other.

By chance, researchers narrowed it down to one specific serial using the Sherlock Holmes method – we both ended up with the same result, within a month or so of one another.

Bruce

130026? not 130126?

http://www.verliesregister.studiegroepluchtoorlog.nl/zoek-serial.php

130126. Number in picture is 1300261, not WNr.

130026? not 130126?

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WNr is for the aircraft as a whole. The pump number is for the pump alone.

There isn’t a lot left, I have to say! Very little recognisable.

Bruce

Do the werk numbers apply to the whole aircraft or different components? It’s just on the picture of the hydraulic pump the werk number is different to what is stated above, on the pump it looks like 215920079 and above is 130126. It might just be me being a thicko!! :confused:

Aircraft was shot down by German AA battery by accident.

That must have been a difficult one to explain by those responsible. I would imagine that a rapid redeployment to the Russian front probably followed?

Herbert Schauder is buried at Ysselsteyn, at the German war cemetery. I would guess that due to its sensitive nature the wreck was recovered at the time and transported to Deelen AFB which at the time was a major Luftwaffe base in the area. Aircraft was shot down by German AA battery by accident.

Very, very interesting, thanks for posting.

Taken form the www.nederlandseluchtvaart.nl/forums :

12.09.1944: Me 262A, W.Nr.130126 van 3./KG 51 with StammeKennzeichen 9K+AL.
Uffz. Herbert Schauder, KIA. Shot down by Flak near Arnhem and crashed near Elden. Wreckage seems to have been transported to Deelen AFB where it ended up in one of the bombcraters.

A rare and exotic find, what an interesting dig that must have been. The turbine blade discs are remarkable though it looks as if the engines weren’t turning on impact, perhaps it ran out of fuel and the pilot baled out? There’s no mention of human remains and there appears to be no ammunition either.

The conditions look good too – light sandy soil and quite dry. A contrast to digs I’ve been on where you are usually paddling around in mud and filth.

What’s the history behind the find, was it discovered by accident, I wonder, or is it one of the many unknown type, known sites that litter the European countryside?

It will be great to see the cleaned-up results of this one.

Anon.

Great find, and some really interesting pieces in the photos. Be good to see how these clean up, especially that turbine / compressor fan and windscreen section.

Rob