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Merlin-engined motor cars

Does anyone know anything about any motor cars built around R-R Merlin engines in the UK? There were at least two built some years ago – one powered by an ex Mosquito Merlin 35(?) which appeared at a motoring event at Brooklands Museum (I think in the early 1990s). One is said to have been owned by a John Dodds, another by a man named Jameson. Maybe others have been created too?

Any photos and news of their fate/current whereabouts would be of interest to me for a current research project that I am assisting with.

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By: eddywinch82 - 30th November 2004 at 00:39

Does anybody know where I can purchase magazines about aero engined vehicles ???? 🙂

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By: Charlielima5 - 21st November 2004 at 13:56

Bit of a challenge this one surely?

I’m still looking for a pic of that Merlin car I saw at Brooklands c1992/93 – tho’ a friend has just told me that it was driven by Robert Jameson – but he no longer has the car, so I’d still like to know where it is today….

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By: eddywinch82 - 17th November 2004 at 23:44

does anybody have any sound files of a rolls-royce merlin being used in a car ? such as the chevy 55 e.t.c ???

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 17th November 2004 at 22:18

as we all know the Jaguar V-12 is two V-8 landrover engines less a bit.

I know you jest, do you?

V-engines are made in a long strip and cut to length and you, if you need to, you can glue them together again. After all, if you take two V-8s, glue them together and cut off a V-4 you can power a Jag and a Ford Corsair.

I thought everyone knew that.

Radials are just rotaries that were picked before they were ripe.

Sorry, nurse is calling . . . .

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By: dhfan - 17th November 2004 at 19:40

Someone have his sweeties stolen this morning?

as we all know the Jaguar V-12 is two V-8 landrover engines less a bit.

I know you jest, do you?

Yes, the Clive du Cros replica was originally powered by a Jaguar V12. The reduction gearing was a substantial part of the cost. I don’t believe it was ever changed but I don’t know for certain.

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By: Bigglesworth - 17th November 2004 at 17:07

VW engines are, boy comparison, quite modern!

Melv

I was under the impression that the VW ‘boxer’ had actually gone ‘full circle’ in as much that it was WW1 era, designed as an aeromotor and used later in cars. It’s use in the Beetle(and others) was due primarily to the need to keep the vehicle cheap and easy to maintain- no plumbing for the cooling, no water pump or radiator to worry about.

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In reverse are there any planes powered by automobile engines ??

Other car engines such as the Mazda rotary engines have proved popular in the USA. I think Peugot are working on a diesel engine based around one of their existing engines. Opel are doing similar in Germany as far as I know.
Motorbike engines are also popular, there are a few home/kit built Europas and microlights flying with BMW twin cylinder engines.

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 17th November 2004 at 16:57

I vaguely remember that the Spitfire Prototype full size replica was powered by a Jaguar V12 Car Engine can anybody verify this ??

Yup, as I remember.

Someone made a Hurri I with a Jag in it so that it could taxi. I think that one is at Tangmere.

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 17th November 2004 at 16:55

That’s come as a surprise to me. I always thought the block was VW based.

Live and learn.

Moggy

Someone have his sweeties stolen this morning?

as we all know the Jaguar V-12 is two V-8 landrover engines less a bit.

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By: Moggy C - 17th November 2004 at 16:49

That’s come as a surprise to me. I always thought the block was VW based.

Live and learn.

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By: eddywinch82 - 17th November 2004 at 16:48

I vaguely remember that the Spitfire Prototype full size replica was powered by a Jaguar V12 Car Engine can anybody verify this ??

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 17th November 2004 at 15:33

Your standard issue Lycoming (C152 / PA28) is basically a VW horizontally-opposed four.

Moggy

Only inasmuch as being a flat-four, they are not related in any other way. Itsabit like saying a Liberty and a V-12 Jag engine are the same! Looking at my aircraft piston engines book (just happens to be next to me as I work today) it says the forerunner of them all was really the Aeronca E-113-A twin. This was produced over here as the Aeronca-JAP. That was followed by the Cont/ A-40.

VW engines are, boy comparison, quite modern!

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By: Moggy C - 17th November 2004 at 14:37

In reverse are there any planes powered by automobile engines ??

Your standard issue Lycoming (C152 / PA28) is basically a VW horizontally-opposed four.

Moggy

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By: Melvyn Hiscock - 17th November 2004 at 14:23

In reverse are there any planes powered by automobile engines ??

Loads, lots of VW powered aeroplanes. Subaru engines are being used now, there are a couple of Porsche-powered aeroplanes. The Vimy had Chevvies and BMW truck engines. The Pietenpol Aircamper had a Ford V-8. There are a lot more, those are just off the top of my head.

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By: eddywinch82 - 17th November 2004 at 14:15

In reverse are there any planes powered by automobile engines ??

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By: eddywinch82 - 17th November 2004 at 01:11

Here is another picture of the Chevy with a Merlin :-

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By: eddywinch82 - 17th November 2004 at 00:31

This chevy is powered by a Rolls-Royce Merlin :-

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By: Mark12 - 16th November 2004 at 23:16

Did Jameson live in the Village of Outwood in Surrey, as I may have a lead on the whereabouts of the car.

Septic.

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I have Brockamhurst, Betchworth, Surrey.

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By: Septic - 16th November 2004 at 23:02

Did Jameson live in the Village of Outwood in Surrey, as I may have a lead on the whereabouts of the car.

Septic.

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By: J Boyle - 16th November 2004 at 22:46

American talk show host/car nut Jay Leno has a 1938 Rolls Royce Phantom II powered by a Merlin. It was featured on a episode of “My Classic Car” a couple of years ago.

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By: Mark12 - 16th November 2004 at 22:29

Carlielima5,

You might find a line of research in either Motor or Autocar. I am sure it was one of these that ran a competition to design/style a body for the six wheel Merlin car. This would be post July 1975 when I had circuited the the estate in the ‘running’ chassis.

From memory, I think the back end of two Mk X Jaguars were required to get the power down to the ground. 🙂

Paul Jameson – an engineer’s engineer.

Mark

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