December 11, 2003 at 9:44 am
I have recently acquired a large 10.5 dia reel of B/W cine film. It is from America and labelled Screen News Digest Vol 8 Issue 4 and titled:-
Unrest in the Dominican Republic
&
“Battle of Britain” remembered.
It is dated as ‘Recieved 11.12.65’. This presumably is the date that the training institute received it.
It is far too large to start unravelling to have a quick look with a glass.
I have no means of viewing. It might be ‘old hat’ stuff, equally from this location it could be a gem.
May I ask if you could consider please running it at IWM for comment. I am a regular visitor on business.
Mark
By: neilly - 24th January 2004 at 10:13
Ashley, did you read my request for some help?
Cheers,
Neilly
By: Ant.H - 23rd January 2004 at 20:37
“(Sorry! Wish there was a way we could tell if our inboxes are full BEFORE someone tries to send us a message…Is there a way, anyone?)”
Doesn’t look like it Ashely,I’ve been having the same probs meself.
By: Ashley - 23rd January 2004 at 10:52
Done 🙂 (Sorry! Wish there was a way we could tell if our inboxes are full BEFORE someone tries to send us a message…Is there a way, anyone?)
By: Bigglesworth - 11th December 2003 at 16:18
Your welcome Mark. I would agree there, safety. Also just re-read one of your earlier posts and notice its 16mm. Unfortunately our 16mm projector is u/s and in need of re-wiring at the moment, so i’m not in a position to help there 🙁 . 35mm or digital wouldn’t be a problem.
By: Mark12 - 11th December 2003 at 16:07
I have unwound to the first few frames of ‘Unrest in the Dominican Republic’ – a 1950s Chevrolet and it is still on the same stock, so it looks like we are in the clear.
Thanks for your advice.
Mark
By: Bigglesworth - 11th December 2003 at 15:54
Slightly!.. That just tells us what the leader is produced/printed on. Looking promising that it is Safety. Unwind a little further until you get to picture stock and look again. It would be MOST unlikely (and very bad practice!) that nitrate stock would follow a safety film leader.
Nick
By: Mark12 - 11th December 2003 at 15:48
The film stock leader reads as follows
Geveart Belgium 2S…………..(in black)
B121 Dupont Safety L……….(in white)
Does this clarify it?
Mark
By: Bigglesworth - 11th December 2003 at 15:28
Check to see if you find the words ‘Safety Film’, or multiple ‘S’s. Nitrate stock should also have ‘nitrate’ printed just outside of the perforations on the edge of the stock. If they’re there you are ok, its not nitrate. Nitrate film degrades with age and becomes unstable as it does so. Ashleys comment on flammability is a slight understatement, its highly explosive when in quantity and a confined space.
I think nitrate film was last produced in the late ’50s, but don’t quote me on that.
As a last resort you could always clip ONE frame, take it outside and put a match to it. If it ‘fizzes’ and burns rapidly then its nitrate, if it goes out or burns VERY slowly or just melts its acetate or safety. Acetate also goes brittle with age.
If it is safety film they PM me and be prepared for a drive upto Cambridgeshire. I will happily run it for you in our cinema.
By: futurshox - 11th December 2003 at 14:33
Excuse me for butting in, but how do you tell if it’s nitrate? Would it be written on the edge, like markings on modern 35mm film? Or does it feel/look different to acetate?
By: Ashley - 11th December 2003 at 11:46
Mark…if the film is made from nitrate stock I would advise that you store it in a cool place e.g. garage until you can bring it to the Museum as nitrate film is highly flammable…acetate is much safer although it does deteriorate quicker than nitrate film does, hence a move towards polyester film stock in recent years (hope this makes sense, I’m typing in a hurry, just wanted to answer your question before my meeting!)
Becka
By: Mark12 - 11th December 2003 at 11:42
Thanks Becka.
All I can say about the film is that it is in a can and I can see no obvious deteriation. It is b/w 16mm sound.
Is there a possible H & S issue?
Mark
By: Ashley - 11th December 2003 at 10:57
Mark12…I will see what I can do (I will get back to you asap)
Becka
P.S. Do you know what type of film it is? I presume acetate?