January 30, 2004 at 11:04 am
We’ve had Spitfire threads, we’ve had a Hurricane thread. How about some air time to their biggest and best known opponent – the Messerschmitt Bf109?? (and the Buchon! ;))
I’ll start us off!
Much-lamented Buchon G-BOML flying alongside Belgian-marked Spitfire IX MH434.
By: DazDaMan - 22nd March 2004 at 20:11
I had some slippery fungers once – not gonna tell you where! ๐
Anyway, back to the Messerschmitts!
Where’s that Davski chap with pics of RACo’s Buchon?! :p
By: Stieglitz - 22nd March 2004 at 20:02
I AM SORRY. I can’t find everything in the dictionary. I yam doeing mey best to tipe coorect.
Maybe slippery fungers?:p
By: Mark12 - 22nd March 2004 at 19:59
And there was me thinking it was one of those ‘Monigue’ sisters.
By: Stieglitz - 22nd March 2004 at 19:44
Haha! ๐ :p ๐
By: DazDaMan - 22nd March 2004 at 19:42
Don’t forget Stan, Kenny and Cartman ๐
By: Stieglitz - 22nd March 2004 at 19:40
Sorry Kyle ร รง-!-!รง- Uhm KYE, It won’t happen aigain!:rolleyes:
By: Kye - 22nd March 2004 at 19:38
KYLE!?!?! BLOODY KYLE!?!?! ๐ฎ :rolleyes: ๐ People even get my name wrong even in type :rolleyes: ๐ ๐ Its no problem i’m used to it ๐
I’ll see what i can do, being the boozey student i am , money is a bit low
Thanks for that bit of info Stieglitz, i got your email as well ๐
By: Stieglitz - 22nd March 2004 at 18:32
Great News!!!! Me-109G-6 D-FMBB from AEDS is also going to appear at La Fertรฉ-Alais in France on May 29-30. So, not only in germany!
Hopfully youre exames are finnished by then Kyle!
See this french-language links of la ferte:
Airshow display programe of the weekend:
http://www.ajbs.com/Les-Meetings/Meeting-2004/Avions-2004.htm
Conformation that it is The Me109 from EADS:
http://www.ajbs.com/Les-Meetings/Meeting-2004/Meeting-master-2004.htm
I am going to La Fertรฉ-Alais and cant wait to see this one!!!:D ๐ ๐
Greets,
J.V.
By: Dave Homewood - 22nd March 2004 at 05:49
Hmm, slightly embarrasssed but I just looked out my collection of Classic Wings mags. In issue two it says there were three ME110’s brought here. Well I never. It says there were two substantially complete, and a third which was ‘incomplete remains’. They only list work numbers for the two ‘complete’ examples. I guess the third was later simply counted as spare bits, and went with the others to Germany. Oh well, sorry to have troubled all.
By: Dave Homewood - 22nd March 2004 at 02:57
ME110’s in New Zealand
I am just rewatching the Warbirds Over Wanaka 1994 video for the first time in years. Sir Tim Wallis is being interviewed and he states, I quote:
“Last week three ME110’s arrived. One of them skidded in on a frozen lake after being mortally shot. Sure the engines are damaged, but the whole aeroplane went underneath in the Spring, and fifty years later we’ve brought it out again. And now that’s back here in Christchurch, at Wigram, where in three years we’ll have it rebuilt to flying condition. And just out the back there, I’ve got a mint condition ME110 engine, that was still in a box, ready to go on. So we’ve got the engines, and most important was the airframe, and now we know we’ve got a flyer. We’ll be the first in the world to fly an ME110. That’s something isn’t it?”
Oh how I wish he hadn’t had that crash. I mean his collection is still amazineg and in a world league, but the potential it had up till that day in 1996 was for so much more.
Anyway, my point is, he said he had THREE ME110’s. What’s up with that. Every report I’ve seen he had two. Surely the great man cannot have been mistaken about his own purchases?
I have the TV3 news item from the day the 110’s arrived at Wigram. They are non-commital on how many airframes there were. They realy refer to it as a single aircraft simply because it is going to be restored as one flyer.
So, Did Sir Tim actually have parts from 3 ME110’s rather than the well-known two?
By: Kenneth - 21st March 2004 at 21:28
The G-10 in Germany has been grounded for about a year now with a blown engine. Rumours have it that the G-6 will be ready for ILA – which is where it made last flight 2 years ago when it blew its engine there! These two aircraft are unlikely to display anywhere else than Berlin (ILA) and Manching, their owners (Willy-Messerschmit-Stiftung) not wanting to take them anywhere without full hull insurance (which costs more than $20,000 for the ILA 2000 display for one aircraft…).
By: Kye - 21st March 2004 at 16:27
I might just do that ๐
I have heard or read somewhere that they are making an effort to get a 109 to legends this year, or at least thats what i seem to remember it to say
By: Stieglitz - 21st March 2004 at 15:32
You can always try to ask them. Maybe you can send a polite e-mail to TFC.:D ๐ ๐
By: Kye - 21st March 2004 at 15:13
Poo bum fart, I’ll be doing my uni exams then :(. I would love to go across for a few days and see that :(. Any chance they might be able to work something out and get them to Duxford ๐
By: Stieglitz - 21st March 2004 at 15:05
It is reported that they are in airworthy condition. Also, it is reported that a me109 will fly at the Internationale Luft- und Raumfahrtausstellung in Berlin on 14-16 may. It is written at the site of this event that a Me109-G6 will preform a FLYING display!:D
So I think Me109 G-6 D-MFBB will fly at this show!!!
see this link of the aircraft participants at this show:
http://www.ila-berlin.de/ila2004/besucher/flugg_liste_e.cfm?kat=11#Szene_1
By: Kye - 21st March 2004 at 14:43
Is the G10 and 6 still airworthy? or have they been put in a museum?
Cheers
๐
By: Stieglitz - 21st March 2004 at 12:18
Both messerschmitts (G-10 D-FEHD and G-6 D-FFMB) are located at Ingolstadt/Manching in Germany.
See this french-language site for more info:
http://www.avions-de-legende.com/avdeleg1/Bf109.htm#109ExDittes
By: DazDaMan - 21st March 2004 at 11:59
The G-10 is in Germany, along with the G-6 D-FMBB.
Most of the Buchons are still around, although the vast majority are no longer flying for one reason or another.
The G-6 and G-10 mentioned above are both ex-Buchons.
By: Kye - 21st March 2004 at 03:50
Sorry to bring this back up but where have most of those messers gone? I know Black 6 sits in Hendon now. Where has that G10 gone, and all those Buchons? I know the Late Mr Hanna was lost in one ๐
By: DazDaMan - 21st February 2004 at 14:20
On the old Sinclair Spectrum game “Tornado ECR” (which was an odd choice of title when you consider you also flew a Spitfire or Hurricane, AND the Tornado, against WW2 Axis fighters!!), you quite often got the old Me410 who’d sort of slow down as he came onto the screen, blast at you with the barbettes, then bugger off sharply into a handy cloud!!
Sneaky sods ๐