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If you can’t find the translation I can send you a copy! I also have a German language report bearing the title Luftfahrt International and 1944. It doesn’t look period and my German isn’t good enough to read it.

That find is very intersting. Does the file include the original DB German language report? The translation I have was done in 1997 / 8 from the incomplete DB original. From memory (and I will dig it out in the next day or two) the original is somewhat political! It includes statements that mention German research into engine construction materials is far more advanced than the British. Let’s just say it was obvious attempt to appease the political masters of the day!

Of course this was the second attempt to convert a captured Spitfire. There was an attempt with a Mark l or ll to fit a DB 601 in 1941. DB gave up on that occasion! I don’t think any photographs of that have ever emerged. All we have today are the four photographs taken outside the hangar doors of EN 830. Unless someone knows differently!

Hopefully this’ll work – found it at Kew on my last visit there whilst looking for other stuff. It gives a brief overview of performance and lists the doc ref of the full report:

Somewhere in my collection I have a partial copy of the DB test report on this Spitfire. Also an English translation. When I asked DB some fifteen years ago if the complete report was available from them they told me that it was a gap in their archive. Apparently US Forces ‘liberated’ the document and they think it is (or was) somewhere in the American Library of Congress but they could not find it!

I have tried to look there as well, but quite unsuccesful I regret to say! By the way on the topic of unusual DB engined aircraft, does anyone have a photograph of the Yugoslavian licence built Hurricane that was fitted ( and it is rumoured flown) with a DB engine when Merlin’s looked to be scarce? Now that would be a find, as would a photo of the Mark l Spitfire Floatplane that was floated on the Solent near Folland’s back yard in the spring of 1940! Not flown of course. Any offers?

Seconded if there were several flying Me 110. As there are none AFAIK I am quite sure no one would do this conversion. Though never say never again.

Regarding the original idea of recreating the Spitfire V with DB 605…… well, I am still hoping someone has the balls, money and will to do it. It would be truly a one of a kind. As Spitfire V airframes are not that rare, it would be for sure an interesting project, main problem would be getting the DB 605. The problem with getting it approved by British Aviation Authorities….., well, you always could register it in Germany. As the original one was registered in Germany, it should not be that much of a problem. But I strongly doubt, I will see it. But never loose hope, lol. 😀

Michael

Regarding Me110s, the old Preserved Axis website listed one Me110 wreck in storage that could be a potential flier one day. Probably something suited for a Paul Allen effort perhaps.

I’m sure the team at MeierMotors would have a blast doing a DB605 Spit conversion.
It’s a handsome combination:

Why not a replica? The MJ100 would fit the bill, and that way you wouldn’t get the purists calling for your heart on a slab….

The mischievous small boy that still dwells within me notes that if the cross-section of a Bf110 engine cowling was so close to that of a Spitfire, how much fun it would have been to fit Merlins to a Bf110! One for the what-if brigade, methinks 😀

Seconded if there were several flying Me 110. As there are none AFAIK I am quite sure no one would do this conversion. Though never say never again.

Regarding the original idea of recreating the Spitfire V with DB 605…… well, I am still hoping someone has the balls, money and will to do it. It would be truly a one of a kind. As Spitfire V airframes are not that rare, it would be for sure an interesting project, main problem would be getting the DB 605. The problem with getting it approved by British Aviation Authorities….., well, you always could register it in Germany. As the original one was registered in Germany, it should not be that much of a problem. But I strongly doubt, I will see it. But never loose hope, lol. 😀

Michael

The mischievous small boy that still dwells within me notes that if the cross-section of a Bf110 engine cowling was so close to that of a Spitfire, how much fun it would have been to fit Merlins to a Bf110! One for the what-if brigade, methinks 😀

As noted in antoni’s link above.

IIRC, EN830’s pilot was Bernie Sheidhauer, one of the Great Escapers and one of the victims of the Gestapo reprisal.

More “Messerspits”

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With survivor TB863 in the mix.

These are what one might call Frankenstein aircraft. :apologetic:

More “Messerspits”

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http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/spitfire.php

Its a photo for sale….

http://allegro.pl/samolot-spitfire-zestrzelony-i4984548551.html

Purists will shoot me, but I’d love to see someone do this conversion today as a one-off for giggles. (If the regulatory gods would even allow it.)

Who is Olivier21? Is he the owner of the photo?
Mike