April 19, 2015 at 11:51 am
Is there a project based on Meteor for SAM based defense?
I’d say a VLS meteor with a booster to bring it up to speed & altitude before the ramjet takes over would have great range for a AAM based SAM system, not to mention a great NEZ.
Nic
By: bring_it_on - 10th July 2016 at 04:09
Bayern Chemie has some interesting work published on VFDR based Surface to Air interceptors but given that most of those that could create such a system, are busy with currently approved projects I don’t see it anytime soon. Ballistic Missiles are covered in the US (ICBM will require some time still) and limited capability will be available across the threat range in Europe as well. AAW capability is there in virtually all interceptors ranging from 20km to around 160km. What the Western Air Defenses need quite urgently is a US Stunner/PAAC-4 class interceptor that is low cost and that can deal with the cruise missile (and cheap TBM) threat more efficiently. I don’t see how VFDR can help in that.
By: Chaffers - 5th June 2015 at 22:10
Sea Dart, after its update which allowed a ballistic profile, had a remarkably similar range to the SM ER and was about a third the weight. Weight isn’t much advantage on a ship though so I assume complexity, maintenance, cost or service life killed off the general idea. Rocket motors are cheap.
By: lukos - 11th May 2015 at 15:11
for some reasons, i dont what it is, most modern SAM abandoned ramjet and go with normal rocket motor, there used to be many ramjet SAM such as SA-5, RIM-8 but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore
Did you mean SA-6?
I think it’s because people have largely given up on trying to terminate aircraft before they get close enough to deliver a stand-off weapon. No SAM will ever out-range a cruise missile, at least not one of practical size, therefore the shift has moved towards intercepting said cruise missile and/or ballistic missile, and I’m guessing the complexity of ramjet missiles and limited benefits when ground launching them from rest pretty much seal their fate.
The answer to the original question is ‘no’, although their is a Meteor-based ARM mooted. The only European SAM projects I know of are CAMM (L/M), CAMM-ER, Aster 30 Block 1NT (All SRBMs) and Block 2 BMD (All MRBMs) and MEADS (PAC-3 MSE based).
By: Arabella-Cox - 19th April 2015 at 15:16
The reason is probably that it is nowadays very fashionable for long-range SAMs (where ramjet propulsion would be advantageous) to have an intercept capability against ballistic missile targets. This may require motor operation at speeds and altitudes beyond the envelope of an air-breathing, sub-sonic combustion ramjet.
By: mig-31bm - 19th April 2015 at 14:17
for some reasons, i dont what it is, most modern SAM abandoned ramjet and go with normal rocket motor, there used to be many ramjet SAM such as SA-5, RIM-8 but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore