January 16, 2004 at 12:07 pm
All,
I am trying to pin down some of my piccies of MH434 to a timeframe and I the best way to do it is to use the various schemes she has worn over the years
Below is a list of the markings and the dates I have for them, correct or otherwise
Codes Date
——– ——
AC-S (Adrian Swire ownership) 1970’s
AV-H 1980’s (I think)
PRU Blue scheme late 1980’s (seem to remember seeing her in this scheme at a North Weald Fighter Meet around this time)
CK-D (RAF) 1990
CK-D (RBAF) 1991
MN-B 1990’s (I think)
PK-K 1990’s (I think)
SZ-G (Polish Scheme) 1990’s (I think)
WO-A (for “Over Here”) 1995
ZD-B (Yellow spinner) 2000+2001
In addition to the above there are also, two occasions when she wore BoB style markings with no codes, one was early 1970’s and the other was for the filming of “A Piece of Cake” during 1988
There are also a smattering of the ZD-B scheme between some of these which makes things a little difficult to pin those one’s down.
I may have the whole thing totally wrong, but if anyone can help me put some timeframes to the various schemes I would really appreciate it.
John
p.s. What scheme did she wear during the filming of “A Bridge Too Far”, was it AC-S or something else?
By: Mark12 - 2nd December 2009 at 15:42
White tips no wing registrations.
Blue tips…as the detail shots.
Mark
By: Jennings - 2nd December 2009 at 15:10
PERFECT! Do you have any other images of her in the blue/white scheme?
Thanks SO much for posting those!
J
By: Mark12 - 2nd December 2009 at 14:29
Transferring the images to ‘my documents’ seems to work. I have a premium subscription to Photobucket.
I believe this is the first of the UK schemes, an adaption of the Belgian shark fin scheme.
Mark


By: Jennings - 2nd December 2009 at 13:14
Mark – you could try using www.villagephotos.com It’s much more user friendly than Photobucket, and I’ve never run into a problem with bandwidth issues.
Alternatively, you could email them to me and I’ll post them here using my villagephotos account. My email is {jrh at pemtel dot net}.
Appreciate the assistance! I’ve become enamoured of that blue & white civil scheme, and I’m starting work on the gorgeous new Tamiya 1/32 kit. I may just have to mate the two 🙂
Cheers
J
By: Mark12 - 2nd December 2009 at 11:05
Any possibility of some scans of those pics??
Cheers
J
If I could figure out why the new loading set-up at Photobucket instantly puts both my computors in to ‘danger mode’ and disconnects me from Explorer, I might be able to help you. 😡
Mark
By: Jennings - 2nd December 2009 at 10:29
Well which of the three, possibly four, variations of white over silver schemes are we talking about? See some of them within this thread of yesteryear.
Certainly I have air to air images clearly showing the over/under wing British Civil registrations as mentioned.
Any possibility of some scans of those pics??
Cheers
J
By: JDK - 2nd December 2009 at 10:14
OK having read the whole thread – did the book ever get published?
No, sadly, it has not. Several people have very kindly offered help, several material (many thanks to them) and there is a viable project. However it requires someone or a team to take it forward, and that has not eventuated, despite some promises (and one demand!).
I’d (still) like to undertake it myself, but the publishing job has gone from being a hobby (when the idea was proposed) to my main livelihood, and I cannot justify the same degree of charity work as a result, much as it would be a wonderfully worthy cause and a great book to do. I hope to make it happen one day, it is in the list of projects on the shelf.
For the record, if someone were interested in taking it forward as a project, either working with me, or with the OK of the other parties, separately, I’d be delighted to see that happen.
Regards,
By: Mark12 - 2nd December 2009 at 09:34
Since I posted that, I’ve found these two shots (apologies to their source – I have no clue where they originated).
Any further ideas?? I can convinced myself that it might say G-ASJV under the left wing, but there’s for sure nothing on top…
Tks!
J
Well which of the three, possibly four, variations of white over silver schemes are we talking about? See some of them within this thread of yesteryear.
Certainly I have air to air images clearly showing the over/under wing British Civil registrations as mentioned.
Mark
By: Jennings - 2nd December 2009 at 01:09
1. Port underwing and Starboard overwing civil registration.
Since I posted that, I’ve found these two shots (apologies to their source – I have no clue where they originated).
Any further ideas?? I can convinced myself that it might say G-ASJV under the left wing, but there’s for sure nothing on top…
Tks!
J


By: Pendeen - 1st December 2009 at 17:57
OK having read the whole thread – did the book ever get published?
By: Mark12 - 1st December 2009 at 17:05
Well, okay, a couple of questions:
1. When she wore the smart white over silver scheme with the blue trim, did she carry her civil registration letters on the wings as would be usual practice on a civilian aircraft? I can’t make them out in any of the photos I’ve seen of her in this scheme.
2. Does ANYBODY have photos of either MH434 or a similar 222 Sqdn aircraft in full D-Day stripes? What I want to know is, did 222 slop the black & white paint right over the codes and serials, or did they go carefully around them like some squadrons did?
Thanks for any pointers!
Jennings
1. Port underwing and Starboard overwing civil registration.
Mark
By: Jennings - 1st December 2009 at 16:03
Sorry to resurrect an old thread again, but a question on MH434
Well, okay, a couple of questions:
1. When she wore the smart white over silver scheme with the blue trim, did she carry her civil registration letters on the wings as would be usual practice on a civilian aircraft? I can’t make them out in any of the photos I’ve seen of her in this scheme.
2. Does ANYBODY have photos of either MH434 or a similar 222 Sqdn aircraft in full D-Day stripes? What I want to know is, did 222 slop the black & white paint right over the codes and serials, or did they go carefully around them like some squadrons did?
Thanks for any pointers!
Jennings
By: DJ Jay - 27th November 2006 at 21:38
oops sorry to resurrect such an old thread, just saw the dates. Linked here from another thread. Maybe i should have posted this in that.
Jay
By: DJ Jay - 27th November 2006 at 21:37
Forgive me if this has already been asked, or if I’m showing my ignorance, but am I right in thinking from the photos that MH434 originally had full, original wingtips when based at Hornchurch, and that these were removed for Dutch use, and replaced when she was flown as a historic?
I had previously thought she’s spent her wartime service with clipped wingtips, possibly on the basis of something i read in an airshow programme, but may have misunderstood. The photo suggests her wingtips were original whilst at Hornchurch.
Jay
By: von Perthes - 17th March 2004 at 20:07
Here’s one my brother took, Fighter Meet ’84.
Geoff.
By: Stieglitz - 11th March 2004 at 19:52
I found this picture in one of my shoeboxes. MH434 at Kortrijk-Wevelgem (EBKT) in 1990.
By: VoyTech - 9th March 2004 at 09:25
Oh, I see!
You just have to complain and ask for help.
By: VoyTech - 9th March 2004 at 09:24
Can someone tell me what is the trick? I have posted pictures in this forum in the past. I seem to follow the same routine. The only difference is that those were b&w and now it is a colour one. The file is a 25 kB jpeg.
By: VoyTech - 9th March 2004 at 09:13
Thanks JDK.
I didn’t mean to be a bore. In fact I intended to attach a nice shot of MH434 to look my reminder pleasant, but failed in doing so. Maybe now.
By: JDK - 8th March 2004 at 21:15
Hi VT,
As behind the closed doors at Historic Flying, there’s a fair amount of hammering, cursing and work going on on this one, but don’t worry, it won’t cost you 55 quid to see what the plan is. I hope to have an update later this week to share.
Cheers
James