Mig 15

I posted this link a couple of months ago…

http://allegro.pl/item348297551_samolot_lim_517.html

From memory, I dont think it ever sold, or certainly not on the auction site. It might be worth trying to contact the owner?

At today rate, it’s about £2500…

and after writing about buying in Poland, I read the whole thread and see you (Merkle) already aired the idea ! I blame the nice pics of the MiG….. I always read the pictures before the text ! ::p

Me too, LOL:D,
amazing how a pic of a nice Mig, can get me all hot a bothered,:o
I reckon men turn into boys again when they have settled down with a mrs,
here i am 36 years young, with teen daughters and a mrs, and i get more exitement looking at/working on nice planes than the mrs, LOL,
goes to prove, boys never grow up, just there toys get more expensive LOL,:p:D:):diablo:

Just from my little list of known survivors that I’ve put together, I count at least forty-three different MiG-17’s at various locations around Poland. Most of these are on outdoor display as makeshift monuments at various “museums”, both private and government. I put the majority of this list together by simply researching the photos available at www.airliners.net, etc. Do a search for “MiG-17” there and you’ll get a pretty good glimpse at the state of preservation that most of the Polish MiG’s are in. A great number of them are simply parked in the grass and abandoned “on display” at these smaller museums. A number of these locations have two or even three examples of the same model sitting outside. I figure there’s a decent chance of acquiring one if you made a resolute enough go at it.

and after writing about buying in Poland, I read the whole thread and see you (Merkle) already aired the idea ! I blame the nice pics of the MiG….. I always read the pictures before the text ! ::p

Erm… Would there be any tax due at all, on import into UK? I can’t think why.

Why not look closer to home… like Poland. Museums often keep several of their ‘home’ types to swap aircraft with museums in other countries. They might consider selling one, or at least know where one is available. I mean… a museum in Poland may have enough on display, and be uninterested in others they know of in Poland. Poland is just a day’s drive from the ferry ports to UK.

Another idea… look at aircraft scrapyards in the East on Google Earth. I was in Riga a few years ago and saw a whole bunch of old aircraft parked in a paddock next to the airport. Didn’t notice any MiG-15s, though.

BU**ER ! Now I want one !

after i put that comment on about tax, I Realisd this only was with items from the usa.
I bought a original german tunic from the states, via e-bay for 300 quid , and was charged 80 quid tax for the privaledge of having it in the uk,
but being poland etc is part of the EU, i imagne there would be no tax to pay 😀

Erm… Would there be any tax due at all, on import into UK? I can’t think why.

Why not look closer to home… like Poland. Museums often keep several of their ‘home’ types to swap aircraft with museums in other countries. They might consider selling one, or at least know where one is available. I mean… a museum in Poland may have enough on display, and be uninterested in others they know of in Poland. Poland is just a day’s drive from the ferry ports to UK.

Another idea… look at aircraft scrapyards in the East on Google Earth. I was in Riga a few years ago and saw a whole bunch of old aircraft parked in a paddock next to the airport. Didn’t notice any MiG-15s, though.

BU**ER ! Now I want one !

Nice pictures, Rob. Thanks for posting them.

I was very grateful to the staff of the Museum at Linköping, Sweden, a few years ago when I was researching for a MiG-15 simulator project. They let me crawl all over a Polish one. I fell for the Russian mission clock, and later bought one. ‘Didn’t think of buying a whole MiG though ! 😀

I read in a book some word from a USAF pilot who had seen one for the first time and scored some hits. He drew up alongside and described it as looking like some beutitiful sports car. Good words, I thought.

I have an aquaintence in Florida who regularly travels to Europe for warbird related business. He ships items back to the US for himself and other MiG owners on accasion. A couple years ago he quoted me a reasonable number to have a complete & airworthy MiG-15 (with logs) disassembled, packed, and shipped to the US not long ago. In total it was about equal to the price of the average mid-sized car. That price would get it to the docks in New Orleans (five hours from my house), where I’d have to receive it and get it the rest of the way home. That said, I imagine the shipping costs to the UK would be markedly less than having the same load sent across the Atlantic.

You could always approach an air museum in your general area and contact the personnel there who have handled museum deliveries like this in the past. Ask them how much they would charge to perform some side work, managing a truck delivery from the docks to your personal storage location. That would at least allow you to piece together an initial budget to see if it would be doable. If it’s something you really want, and you can justify the cost, I’d say go for it. Once you have it, it’s all yours! 😎

migs

id love 2 find some were that has a few for sale and buy with other people! that way the cost of shipping them over and work needed on them could be devided!
imagen have a small squadren of mig 15,17’s based 2getther at some were like brunters!!

yep i would love such a idea, but with everybody living so far apart, it looks almost impossible, unless we all live in a 50 mile radius ,
I live in bristol
uk 🙂

id love 2 find some were that has a few for sale and buy with other people! that way the cost of shipping them over and work needed on them could be devided!
imagen have a small squadren of mig 15,17’s based 2getther at some were like brunters!!

sadly im in the uk! i have storage and the means 2 collect (a very large trallor) but just dont know anywere or any one who could sourse one for me!
sadly there is no migsforsale.com

mig photo

heres a pic of a mig 15 ( ex Polish airforce Lim 2) painted in north Korean Colours, from the FAA Museum Yoevilton UK

Not so much cockpits by themselves – at least not when it comes to MiG’s anyway. More often than not, a person will spot disassembled airframes like the ones in the photos below. These two (ex-Bulgarian) airframes were spotted by another warbird enthusiast last month just across the border frm me in east Texas. There is another complete example displayed out in front of an antiques shop about 50 miles up the road from these in a small town outside of Dallas.

There are at least 80 different MiG-17’s in the United States that I have traked down, and quite a few are still stored disassembled like this. Many are already becoming derelict after being acquired as “cheap” display pieces at smaller museums around the country. A person could pick up quite a few of them relatively cheaply if they were motivated to that end, but the cost of diasssembly, loading, trucking, and unloading would be more of the limiting factor. Honestly, if I had a place to put them (!) this would probably be a primary focus of mine – collecting these disrepected airframes on the cheap and storing them as investments for the future. Once you get your hands on one, concerns about long term storage become a very real factor in your game plan. I was limited to an old barn at the time of my first recovery. I’m about a year out from finally acquiring my own hangar finally, after which I may single out another airframe somewhere and give it another go. Still no budget to make a real bid at restoration and flying though. 😉

Must say Rob,
real nice pictures and
I Envy you, living in the USA there are so many warbirds lying around,
I wonder what it would cost to buy one fo these ex Display pieces that are falling apart ,like the ones you have mentioned,??
we dont really see them here in the UK,
I Imagine to purchase one ,Load it up, then transport to a dock ,put into a shipping crate, and ship to UK, Also the TAX on that when it arrives in the UK would be Prohibitive to most british enthusiasts,

Has anyone out there managed to do such a thing before on a shoe string budget ??(I know ,Dreaming Again) but i suppose i have wanted to own a Mig now for over 10 years, but never knew the contacts, in eastern Europe, or how to go about it, I tried Various Avenues, But allways hit a dead end, I must be doing something wrong ,especally when so many have made it to the USA from Europe :confused:

radium dials

Just a word of warning: the instruments in soviet warplanes of that age have radioactive dial markings and pointers.

No, I’m not a health and safety bureaucrat (ie, idiot!)

Just trying to be helpful.

Bri 🙂

I know exactly what your saying,Radium is dangerous, But ONLY if it is Ingested,if you have any broken glass on your dials be careful when removing, and try not to get your fingers on the actual Dial face it self,
Wash hands after handling the dials, and you will be OK, the worry is to touch a uncovered dail face (No Glass) get a minute particle of Radium paint on your hand , then grab a sandwich or something to eat, thus acidentally Ingesting any radium particulate from your fingers, as long as you wash your hands straight after, and dont put your fingers in your mouth you are 110% safe,Oh and NO SMoking, just incase it is on your fingertips, and you ingest it that way, basicly use a bit of common sense and your OK .
How do i know this ??
Well i have been a Industrial Radiographer for over 10 yr’s s I think i am educated enough to give a Honest opinion ,:)

Just a word of warning: the instruments in soviet warplanes of that age have radioactive dial markings and pointers.

No, I’m not a health and safety bureaucrat (ie, idiot!)

Just trying to be helpful.

Bri 🙂

Not so much cockpits by themselves – at least not when it comes to MiG’s anyway. More often than not, a person will spot disassembled airframes like the ones in the photos below. These two (ex-Bulgarian) airframes were spotted by another warbird enthusiast last month just across the border frm me in east Texas. There is another complete example displayed out in front of an antiques shop about 50 miles up the road from these in a small town outside of Dallas.

There are at least 80 different MiG-17’s in the United States that I have traked down, and quite a few are still stored disassembled like this. Many are already becoming derelict after being acquired as “cheap” display pieces at smaller museums around the country. A person could pick up quite a few of them relatively cheaply if they were motivated to that end, but the cost of diasssembly, loading, trucking, and unloading would be more of the limiting factor. Honestly, if I had a place to put them (!) this would probably be a primary focus of mine – collecting these disrepected airframes on the cheap and storing them as investments for the future. Once you get your hands on one, concerns about long term storage become a very real factor in your game plan. I was limited to an old barn at the time of my first recovery. I’m about a year out from finally acquiring my own hangar finally, after which I may single out another airframe somewhere and give it another go. Still no budget to make a real bid at restoration and flying though. 😉

cor, she is a beauty,
just what i was after a few years ago, there was a scrap dealer in babimost poland,but ihave a feeling he only had mig 21,

shipping to england would be pretty expensive i am sure,unless you just are lucky to find a cockpit in europe, and take a trailer and pick it up yourself, from say poland,

i was talking to some poles, and they drive home now and again, it takes them about a whole day to drive there

wish i could do it myself,as i really would like a cold war fighter one day,
do you ever see derelict cockpits in the states ??,

:):)

Where are you located bbspolo (US or UK)?

I bought a MiG-17 here in the US for $11K last year (since sold). There are quite a few derelict MiG-15’s & -17’s available here in the US. There are also loads of them floating around in Poland if you can find a local importer to handle the disassembly/recovery. There’s a good chance that the recovery costs may outweigh to cost of the plane itself, but you’ll forever have your MiG after that. 😀

If it were me, I’d try to find one that’s complete with log books. You never know what the future may bring, and an airframe with log books means it stands a real chance of returning to the skies one day. It’s a good way to maximize your investment if that option’s available to you.

Here’s we are breaking mine down last year. It was later purchased by a man in Texas who was looking to do the same thing as you – build a fuselage display for personal enjoyment. These jets are perfect for that use, especially for the enthusiast working on a limited budget.

cheers for that sadly they have loads of 21’s but no 15’s or 17’s and im rearly set on on of these becouse of there size and simpliciaty in design compered to the much more complicated 21 !

try these people,
I am sure i seen one of there videos a year ago with them clibing into, and looking at some Mig 15’s , I was after one myself a few years ago,
Cheers

Chris C

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