December 22, 2007 at 7:00 pm
Can anyone shed light on the circumstances of the crash of G-ADTD on 21 September 1962. One source states that it crashed in the sea off Angmering, West Sussex, but another says that it “hit a tree and crashed at sea”. Assuming that the geographical location attributed to the crash is correct and having regard to the fact that the coastal stretch at Angmering is fairly heavily developed (and, presumably, was not much different in 1962), it is hard to work out how the Falcon could have hit a tree (presumably on land!) and managed to end up in the sea. How far off shore did it hit the water? Was it totally destroyed and/or lost in the crash? If not, what became of the wreckage? Who was the pilot and, if any, the passengers? What was their fate? Is there anyone out there who knows more of the circumstances of this apparently rather unusual accident?
By: avion ancien - 4th November 2010 at 20:15
Keith, if you can and want to talk about Geoffrey Marler, let me know and I’ll PM my telephone number to you. As we’re in the same country, the call charges will be cheaper!
By: Dev One - 4th November 2010 at 19:50
That photo posted by Blue Robin of Geoff Marler overtaking -AHNA was taken by me!!! There is another posted on B Clays site.
He was very close – I could hear him over the noise of our engine!!
I had reminiscences of the crash at Southend where one Proctor cut the tail of another – ( 1953 I think).
Keith
( Yes I know its an old thread – but only just got round to finding it! Amazing what one finds when least expecting it.)
By: avion ancien - 24th November 2009 at 20:13
So I suppose that’s a no then!
Ah well, c’est la vie!
By: avion ancien - 5th November 2009 at 18:44
. I don’t suppose that anyone has any contact details for any of Geoffrey Marler’s children, Christopher, Nicky and Amanda (who would now be aged between 52 and 48 nowadays) or know whether his widow is alive today? But if they do, I’d be grateful to know.
So I suppose that’s a no then!
By: avion ancien - 4th June 2008 at 17:10
A little more research has indicated that G-ADTD wore the racing number 92 for the 1955 SBAC Trophy race at Yeadon. Can anyone with more knowledge of airfields “oop north” in the 1950s say whether the photo of the Falcon may have been taken there?
By: RPSmith - 4th June 2008 at 09:41
It has been suggested to me that the photo was taken at Baginton in the early 1950s. Can anyone confirm that or offer an alternative suggestion?
Don’t think so – the background doesn’t look Baginton (but I May be wrong)
Roger Smith.
By: chumpy - 3rd June 2008 at 23:47
G-ADTD is listed in the Putnam British Racing & Record Breaking A/C book as an entrant in the 1954 Kings Cup race held at Baginton (June 18-19), so might be the location.
Though looking through the pages ‘DTD, flown by Mr.Marler took part in many events during this period…came in 4th at an event at Denham in August of 54.
Chumpy.
By: avion ancien - 3rd June 2008 at 22:29
Apologies for bringing this thread back to life after some months but I thought it better to continue here than start a new thread. I have obtained an old print of G-ADTD, which is attached. Can anyone tell me where and when it was taken (perhaps the race number helps)?
It has been suggested to me that the photo was taken at Baginton in the early 1950s. Can anyone confirm that or offer an alternative suggestion?
By: avion ancien - 25th May 2008 at 16:17
Apologies for bringing this thread back to life after some months but I thought it better to continue here than start a new thread. I have obtained an old print of G-ADTD, which is attached. Can anyone tell me where and when it was taken (perhaps the race number helps)?
By: Hairyplane - 22nd January 2008 at 16:41
Folding wings
The wings are regularly folded. It takes a few minutes a side only and is a masterpiece of design.
All the best
HP
By: ollieholmes - 22nd January 2008 at 11:32
Whilst the wing is similar to that of the ( aerobatic) Maggie, the Falcon wing folds so my guess is that it wasn’t ever aerobatic for that reason.
Have you ever folded the wings on yours?
By: Hairyplane - 22nd January 2008 at 10:08
Falcon aeros
I’ll make some enquiries to see if it was advertised as ‘aerobatic’ back in 1936.
Whilst the wing is similar to that of the ( aerobatic) Maggie, the Falcon wing folds so my guess is that it wasn’t ever aerobatic for that reason.
That doesn’t mean to say that nobody did it…!
HP
By: avion ancien - 21st January 2008 at 18:20
Is/was the Falcon cleared for aeros?
I suppose Hairyplane is second best qualified to say!
By: BlueRobin - 21st January 2008 at 09:32
Is/was the Falcon cleared for aeros?
By: flyernzl - 20th January 2008 at 23:39
the Kink’s Cup air race
Well that’s telling it like it is!
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th January 2008 at 18:53
From The Times Sat Sept 22 1962
“Aviator Killed in Looping Practice
Mr Geoffrey Marler of Angmering Sussex was killed yesterday when looping the loop in his Falcon light aircraft over his home, the White House, Tamerisk Way. A wing tip struck an 8 ft tree and the Falcon nose dived into the sea scattering wreckage over the beach. Mr Marler was practicing aerobatics in preparation for Shoreham Air Day.
An RAF helicopter from Tangmere air base sighted wreckage floating in the sea. Mr Marler’s body was later recovered by a boat from Littlehampton.
Mr Marler had been flying for at least ten years. An experienced pilot, he often flew alone. For many years he entered the King’s Cup air race.”
regards
DaveW
By: RPSmith - 20th January 2008 at 18:31
Any idea when and from where the photo was taken?
For the “from where” bit it was taken from cockpit of Proctor G-AHNA piloted by one of the Paine brothers.
Roger Smith.
By: Arabella-Cox - 20th January 2008 at 15:54
Loss of G-ADTD
I did not see the accident but can clearly remember it being reported.
I had been to Thruxton Air Races on Sunday 16 Sept 1962: G-ADTD had been parked in the back of the hangar there.
The aircraft was entered in Shoreham Air Races due to take place on Sat 22 Sept. I have a copy of the programme with ‘DTD listed. The aircraft crashed on the Friday afternoon at Angmering. I seem to recall it being reported that Geoffrey Marler had either friends or relatives there and he had been flying over their home. Any newspaper reports of the time available?
A sad end to a life and an interesting aircraft.
Planemike
By: avion ancien - 18th January 2008 at 23:09
’56 or ’58 Kings Cup at Baginton. G Marler flying.
Ah, the gentleman who died flying it. A tragic tale attaches to that.
By: BlueRobin - 18th January 2008 at 21:36
’56 or ’58 Kings Cup at Baginton. G Marler flying.