June 7, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Hi all
Please, I´m looking for details of the Miles M.14A Hawk Trainer III reg. G-AKGS, that crashed in Granada mountains on 1 april 1954.
I would like to know c/n, construction date and ex-RAF register when her was Miles Magister. Any detail helps a lot¡¡¡.
Also it would be great to get a pic of the aircraft. This is the last aircraft I´m going to include in a book about wrecks in Sierra Nevada mountains. The next weekend I´ll try to find the crashsite.
Thanks friends
Regards
Michel
By: John Aeroclub - 8th June 2010 at 21:41
That I haven’t found yet.
John
By: Newforest - 8th June 2010 at 21:33
And Michel wanted a photo John?
By: John Aeroclub - 8th June 2010 at 21:12
The crash pilots name was Seeley and the passenger was named Mullins. When at RAF Barrow the rear cockpit had a teardrop hood, but this was removed later. Full history in Peter Amos’s Miles the early years.
John
By: Michel Lozares - 8th June 2010 at 21:03
Options are that it had been sold and was being delivered or the UK owner was going on holiday (1st April?).:confused:
Does Michel know the name of the pilot?
Thank you very much.
The ABC newspaper, 3 april 1954 edition, reported that two on board were the americans David Seeley and Charles J. Mullin.
Hope to know more info if I get the acc. report. If so, I´ll let you know.
MIchel
By: Michel Lozares - 8th June 2010 at 20:57
If you have not already seen the crash report, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=572072&CATLN=6&accessmethod=5 might be useful to you, Michel. It would be interesting to know what a British registered Magister was doing, so far from home, when it crashed in, presumably, the Sierra Nevada mountains.
Thank you very much. Yes, I have contacted with them for to order the accident report and prices. I think that I read that them have the spanish report, so I´m going to check it in the Spanish AF Archive
And yes, the Miles crashed in Sierra Nevada mountains, near a small village, Cañar, placed in the Alpujarras, south face of S. Nevada. Her was in flight between Málaga and Murcia, it is all I know about the accident.
Michel
By: Michel Lozares - 8th June 2010 at 20:47
In which case the aircraft’s career with the RAF is as follows:
23 ERFTS. Elementary & Reserve Flying Training School.
24 EFTS. Elementary Flying Training School.
60 OTU. Operational Training Unit.
485 Squadron.
7 FTS. Flying Training School.
SPTU. Service Pilots training Unit.
ECFS. Empire central Flying School.
Sold 14/11/46. Information from Air britain’s Royal Air Force Aircraft P1000 – R9999.
Hope this helps.
kev35
Thank you very much Kev, complete information, what I was looking for, it´s great ¡¡¡
By: Michel Lozares - 8th June 2010 at 20:45
British Military serial was P6410…………..
Planemike
Thank you very much¡¡¡¡ 😉
By: Newforest - 8th June 2010 at 15:48
Options are that it had been sold and was being delivered or the UK owner was going on holiday (1st April?).:confused:
Does Michel know the name of the pilot?
By: avion ancien - 8th June 2010 at 13:08
If you have not already seen the crash report, http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=572072&CATLN=6&accessmethod=5 might be useful to you, Michel. It would be interesting to know what a British registered Magister was doing, so far from home, when it crashed in, presumably, the Sierra Nevada mountains.
By: kev35 - 8th June 2010 at 12:16
In which case the aircraft’s career with the RAF is as follows:
23 ERFTS. Elementary & Reserve Flying Training School.
24 EFTS. Elementary Flying Training School.
60 OTU. Operational Training Unit.
485 Squadron.
7 FTS. Flying Training School.
SPTU. Service Pilots training Unit.
ECFS. Empire central Flying School.
Sold 14/11/46. Information from Air britain’s Royal Air Force Aircraft P1000 – R9999.
Hope this helps.
kev35
By: Arabella-Cox - 8th June 2010 at 11:02
British Military serial was P6410…………..
Planemike
By: Newforest - 8th June 2010 at 07:37
The aircraft was stored at Christchurch in 1949, rebuilt and then used by the Christchurch Flying Club before moving on. It is interesting that its last UK owner was a resident at Oxford University, student or teacher?
Let us know about your crash research.:)
By: kev35 - 7th June 2010 at 23:24
Perhaps this link might be of interest?
if you open the pre 1986 part of the document it gives more detail.
Edited to add: Construction number was 1765.
Hope this helps.
Kev35