Miles Kestrel/Master drawings

Yes there all originals from the factory..

Ossington, extraordinary information, again. Not much left of DL938. In the faded background I can see the water tower ? I think this is the green structure in my recent photo. It makes sense as this would seem to be the take off direction. I will show the photo to my father. It looks like it hit a structure. Only one prop is bent, suggesting the engine was not running on impact. Did the engine fail on a test run, and did the pilot attempt to turn back ?

Sorry to drag this post off topic again, but here’s a photo of the Master crash of DL938 at Newton.
https://imgur.com/a/6RTCC
Source: Last post At Newton, Timothy O’Brien, Tobbit Publications 2008, p.63.
Airfield exit towards Crash Gate 1 in background, about SK68242.

No Kestrel/ Master drawings sorry

I have begun making up Cad drawings of the Falcon Based off Measurements and photos of VH AAT a miles falcon here in Australia.
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Ref Drawings.

I do have a large collection of Falcon and Hawk (Sparrowhawk / Speed Six ) drawing which came from the Factory and PPS.

Civil Aero,
What format are these in ? are they originals? Would be very interested in seeing these! particularly the Falcon Drawings.

I have 74 accidents/incidents listed to Masters in Nottinghamshire (so far!)
Master III DL890 spun into ground during aerobatics somewhere in the Nutall Rd./Whitemoor Ave. area, 9th June, 1944. Thats the one? Is the gap in the tree visible on Google Earth Street View?

The above is the crash I referred too. I haven’t been by there for many years but the local aviation society used to meet at The Whitemoor Pub some 25 years ago, I think that it might have been David Birch who pointed it out to me. If I remember the spot was
almost opposite the Whitemoor Pub on Nutall Rd and just short of the ring road and before the junction with Whitemoor Ave. The missing tree space was visible then but there have been changes to the area in the passing years.

John

Ossington, thank you for some good information. The story has an even more tragic edge with Sgt Brown being an additional fatality. This was one of those stories that came off the cuff from my father, like a bird hitting the window. We were talking about a bit of history and he described one of the most unpleasant things he had to do in training, which was to identify the body of his friend Szwede, burnt beyond easy recognition. I always wondered why he was forced to do this for a ‘single crew’ Aircraft in advanced training, but never pressed him on it. I assumed an inquest may have required an ID. The context of a passenger and badly burnt wreckage now makes sense. I wonder if the Sgt fitter was there as part of protocol after a major service, or along for the ride. A double tragedy. Thank you for the information, it is good to get more substance around the memory. It sounds like a lot of Masters went in, by your research.

The Berkshire Aviation Group collected a large amount of parts together in the mid 1980s . Some of this travelled to Woodley and as stated some went yo Breighton. That would have been in the early 1990s

CeBro. The project to recreate a Master involved much original material collected at Breighton. There was an illustrated article in an edition of “Flypast” about it at the time (1980s I think). It didn’t progress and the parts reportedly ended up down south – some I think at Hawkinge.

Hi Consul,
Yes, everything is now in the museum store at Hawkinge, except for one pair of Master wings that were used on the Berkshire Martinet. I surveyed all of the parts 2 years ago, and there is enough there to make a good static, if someone can make some accurate layout drawings to help piece it all together.

CeBro. The project to recreate a Master involved much original material collected at Breighton. There was an illustrated article in an edition of “Flypast” about it at the time (1980s I think). It didn’t progress and the parts reportedly ended up down south – some I think at Hawkinge.

I have 74 accidents/incidents listed to Masters in Nottinghamshire (so far!)
Master III DL890 spun into ground during aerobatics somewhere in the Nutall Rd./Whitemoor Ave. area, 9th June, 1944. That the one? Is the gap in the tree visible on Google Earth Street View?

Pilot Officer Tadeusz Szwede, 23, dived into ground from 50ft. on air-test in Master III DL938 of 16(P)SFTS Newton. Also killed was his passenger, Sgt. William Henry Brown, engine fitter. Sat 25th March, 1944.

The Master is another great favorite of mine and I would love to do a drawing of this type for model purposes if I can put together enough info.

I remember the tower and hangars at Newton, as it was the first B of B airshow I attended in 1954 when I lived in a village not far from there (In fact I’m not much further away now). I later did my SNCO management training course at Newton. Newton was one of the few remaining grass airfields, There’s another Master crash site on the A610 just inside the Valley (Ring) road where a Polish chap crashed after aerobatting a Master over his girlfriends house. The site is still visible today by virtue of a tree missing from a kerbside row of trees.

John

Used as Industrial park today. Always was a grass strip, on a plateau.

Not off topic, there were Masters in those hangars and Master pilots were there from 1939.

No Sir

Not yet

Not finished

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