Miles M1 Satyr G-ABVG – Registration Mark Issue

Phillip
Do you have original drawings. I believe we tried to track some down in the late 70s when we were looking for a biplane to build. The other beauty is the Redwing.
Engine has to be a Pobjoy, just to see how lively she really was. With the geared engine and the good power to weight it is an ideal engine for an aeroplane like this with good power conversion at low speeds.
Good luck with the project anyway.:)

Oh, below is a rough outline of what the Satyr looked like (colour scheme). Personally I think it’s too wacky. I’m thinking of painting her silver.

It’s certainly an interesting colour scheme. Rather reminiscent of that carried by some RAF Bulldogs (that’s the old biplane fighter, not the more modern monoplane trainer!). But what is the provenance of the colour scheme shown? All the photos of the Satyr in ‘Miles Aircraft since 1925’ show it in a single pale ‘all over’ colour (maybe silver doped?). However as G-ABVG was used by the Hon. Mrs Victor Bruce for flying displays and by John Pugh for aerobatics, in one of the ‘flying circuses’ that were relatively common in the 1930s, the red and white (silver?) hatching seems to be a not improbable colour scheme.

Keep the colour scheme, get Forum members to sponsor each square and then they will be on your back to get the job finished!:D

Whether or not my proposal to build a replica Miles M1 Satyr will “take off”, depends on the Light Aircraft Association (formally the PFA), the availability of a suitable engine, and my abilities to get off my bottom.

There are so many issues to be resolved that it’s too early to say whether this is another “day dream” or a viable proposition. More later…

Oh, below is a rough outline of what the Satyr looked like (colour scheme). Personally I think it’s too wacky. I’m thinking of painting her silver.

Phil Rhodes

If it is being built as a static or non-flying replica, you will not need to involve the CAA anyway – so there is no reason why you can’t simply apply the original markings in the same way as the Hendon Mew Gull replica carries G-AEXF.

If it is a flying aeroplane, the CAA will require a totally new registration and, alothough they used to, now will not allocate unused age-related registrations. A lot of people have tried in recent years, but it is apparently too difficult for their ingrained bureaucracy to handle. (All part of their infamous ‘service’ culture!)

One solution might be to apply for a similar non-age related registration which is similar to the original. The flying Mew Gull replica, based on Edgar Percival’s G-AEKL, has just been registered G-HEKL.

Maybe you could apply for G-HBVG – and have mysteriously non-parallel verticals in the letter ‘H’ :diablo:

Could you not have the original registration painted as normal with the real later issue small on the frame somewhere in the same way as war birds in military colours..

Are you proposing to fly your “replica” of the Miles Satyr when it has been recreated? If not, then the issue of the registration marks which it will bear will not, surely, be an issue! If you are proposing a flying replica then, I am sure, it will be a delight whatever marks it bears! But if it is going to be the second Satyr, might it not be better to go for the closest in sequence registration that the CAA has not yet issued rather than striving to be a clone of the first Satyr?

Have you built a replica Satyr. A beautiful little aeroplane. Any photos?:)