June 2, 2014 at 12:33 pm
I am looking into the requirements for an Annex-II glider to be carrying military (RAF) markings. Is there such a thing as regulation for a BGA-registered glider to be allowed to display a military serial and roundel?
By: ericmunk - 26th June 2014 at 13:34
The RAF Air Events Team at RAF Northolt were – I am delighted to say – extremely helpful, and we now have formal permission to display the original markings on the glider.
By: ericmunk - 4th June 2014 at 08:14
Thanks for that Dave. I understand from a few phonecalls that the RAF Events Team at Northolt now seems to be the place to ask, and I can skip the CAA as they don’t ‘do’ Annex-II glider CofA’s. Permission from the RAF seems to be the only thing I need nowadays…
By: G-ASEA - 3rd June 2014 at 17:15
We went the Strike Command route when we did our old Kite 1.
Dave
By: ericmunk - 3rd June 2014 at 08:55
See
https://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=123&pagetype=90&pageid=136
http://www.maa.mod.uk/linkedfiles/regulation/1000_series/ra1120.pdf
🙂
Thanx Tony, but the problem is that the aircraft involved does not have a CAA CoA or a CAA PtoF, but a BGA CofA and operating on a Dutch permit. Both the CAA and MoD have been unable to help when I rang them. I have gotten a different lead from a fellow pilot who managed to get permission from a different branch of the MoD some years ago, for an Annex-II glider, so I will try his route (thanks Astir8!)…
By: TonyT - 2nd June 2014 at 16:00
See
https://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=123&pagetype=90&pageid=136
http://www.maa.mod.uk/linkedfiles/regulation/1000_series/ra1120.pdf
🙂
By: Astir 8 - 2nd June 2014 at 15:15
Hi Eric
You a) Apply to the RAF for permission to carry RAF markings then b) Apply to the BGA for permission to carry alternate markings. You have to keep the BGA number but it can be small and hidden under the tailplane.
Apply to RAF Strike Command, High Wycombe. I can email the address. It was all quite easy.
However it’ll be more complicated if you’re in Holland as you will probably also have to get permission from the Dutch authorities.
The RAF permission is only applicable to the country of residence of the applicant and technically we’ve been illegal whenever we’ve taken the T21 into Europe, but no-one has ever complained yet.
Oh and the aircraft must not be flown “in a manner which may cause criticism of the RAF”, the markings must be historically accurate and the application must be by the legal owner of the aircraft.
cheers
Dave
By: ericmunk - 2nd June 2014 at 14:26
Look at para 16 onwards. Don’t know if it will help.
http://www.maa.mod.uk/linkedfiles/regulation/1000_series/ra1120.pdf
Thank you Lynx815, but that paragraph 16 rules us out, as it is only appliable for CAA-issued CofA’s (Part M, SAS, etc) and/or CAA-issued PtoF’s. Ours is a BGA issued Annex-II CofA… I have not yet come across any regulation we fall under, which of course is only all the better for us.
By: Lynx815 - 2nd June 2014 at 14:14
Look at para 16 onwards. Don’t know if it will help.
http://www.maa.mod.uk/linkedfiles/regulation/1000_series/ra1120.pdf