Most misleading aviation programme title in history. My nomination.

I thought it was a well put together programme that was well presented for the non aviation type of person

I have to agree, I haven’t done much research on the sinking of the Tirpitz, but this seems well researched. I did feel for the German sailors though.

“What do you mean we started it. It was you who invaded Poland!” Basil Fawlty circa 1977.

Helping out with a war YOU started. 🙂
IIRC, the UK declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
Sure you did it t meet a treaty obligation and to stand up for Poland…but when the US starts a war for the same basic reasons, we’re the bad guy.

I’ve often wondered that if Germany had not declared war on the US first, whether America would have got involved in the European conflict.

Arguably the world was a safer place when they were in the habit of turning up to wars late, rather than starting them off.

Helping out with a war YOU started. 🙂
IIRC, the UK declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
Sure you did it t meet a treaty obligation and to stand up for Poland…but when the US starts a war for the same basic reasons, we’re the bad guy.

Attacking the Tirpitz

I thought last night’s programme on Channel 4 about the bombing of the Tirpitz was very well done. The shots of the Lancasters on the actual raid were really interesting and they would have provided an excellent target for the Bardefoss Bf 109s. The fact that a German officer delayed the information to the squadron on purpose was new to me and added interest to the whole programme The fact that they managed two direct hits was amazing when the general bombing accuracy was still pretty poor at that stage of the war.`

I thought it was a well put together programme that was well presented for the non aviation type of person

Forgot to say, as I write this I happened to be in the bar of the Petwood Hotel, complete with prints of the Tirpitz raid!

Thoroughly enjoyed it and the analysis by Patrick Bishop as well as the always moving contributions from the participants most in their 90s as excellent. And Schultz’s comment as he put the phone down from speaking to Iveson was sadly prescient.

Despite the sarcasm and cynicism about the title, a very good programme. good to see the Late Tony Iveson. Lets not knock the TV companies when they do produce something like this…and the reason for the title was indeed explained!

Odd title,however the air to air pic of the Lanc in this link is superb http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/ctzpgk/secret-history–the-dambusters-great-escape-secret-history

Come on chaps, stop being mean to our transatlantic cousins.

Arguably the world was a safer place when they were in the habit of turning up to wars late, rather than starting them off.

😉

Moggy

Loving the idea of a Piece of Cake remake starring Mary Berry as Sq/L Rex

Piece of Cake-was expecting some yummy recipes!
Re: ‘Yank’ films-What about ‘Sound Barrier’ Where the Brits did it? Or ‘First of the Few’ where R.J. Mitchell invented monocoque construction??

Sorry, how could the Americans have won the Battle of Britain? They did not enter the Second World War until 1943.

Planemike

1943, huh?

Then how do you explain that U-Boat and Enigma machine that Matthew McConaughey and the U.S. Navy captured in 1942 ! ?

US joined the Pacific War on 7 December 1941, and the European War on 11 December 1941.

The 2001 movie Pearl Harbor featured a fictional pair of US pilots who:

1. Joined the RAF via Canada in 1940 (as quite a number historically did, see Eagle Squadrons) and won the Battle of Britain by themselves (very fictional)

2. Returned to the US in time to be in the US Army Air Corps and assigned to Wheeler Field in Hawaii just in time to shoot down Japanese aircraft on 7 December 1941 (very fictional – some US pilots did get in the air and shoot down Jap aircraft, but none were Eagle Squadron vets, as all of those were still in the UK on that day)

3. Got transferred to B-25s in time to join Jimmy Doolittle’s unit and fly off USS Hornet to bomb Japan on 18 April 1942 (extremely fictional – no Eagle Squadron pilot, nor any Pearl Harbor pilot, flew with Doolittle over Japan).

1943, huh?

Then how do you explain that U-Boat and Enigma machine that Matthew McConaughey and the U.S. Navy captured in 1942 ! ?

Sorry, how could the Americans have won the Battle of Britain? They did not enter the Second World War until 1941.

Planemike

Whoops, but still after 1940 !!!!!

My nomination is the one about how the Yanks won the Battle of Britain, and then went on to bomb Tokyo in carrier-launched medium bombers. It was called, of course, ‘Pearl Harbor’! 🙂

No, no, no. You are all wrong. The most misleading title for an aviation film is `Red Tails`.
There was me thinking it was going to be a boys own WW2 classic. A worthwhile tribute to black airmen featuring great aerial scenes.

Ici, où se trouve le petit capitaine anglais Monsieur Trubshaw!

It was half way through the first ever program that I realised that there was probably no aviation content in Monty Python’s Flying Circus.

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