Mother of 10 kids.

When you think that Leicester is now an ethnic minority, and Boston Lincs where 1 in 5 is from Europe, then yes, I do believe it affects our economy.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Leicester is an ethnic minority is it? :confused:

You’re right though. It probably does affect our economy but in a good way. All those coming over here, doing jobs the feckless indigenous population won’t do – sounds good to me.

If Leicester and Boston were the whole nation then you might have a point but they aren’t and you don’t.

Jim.

Do you ever read up on anything before you post about a topic? I quote from your own post…..

“……who came here with 4 children, she then obtained her other “6” children she had left in Latvia.”

Totally wrong. She arrived in 2008 with three of her children, had three more whilst living here and then brought her remaining four children over from Latvia. She does not have a very large house at all, just a three bedroomed terrace.

“No, as nothing was mentioned re twins, however, she had a figure to die for, and if all those offsprings are hers, I would be surprised.”

Wrong again. The article clearly mentions there is one pair of twins, born in England. The children’s ages range from 16 to three, meaning she had her first child at 15. It’s not that difficult to accept that they are all hers bearing in mind that the last three, born in England from 2008 on, give her a range of twelve years in which to have the previous seven. If you really think she has a figure to die for then might I respectfully suggest you need to get out more?:D

“If she is self employed, as you state, how is she able to get all the benefits she doe’s?. And if working, who is looking after her family whilst she is at work.”

The answer to your first question above is clearly stated in the article. She receives working tax credit and family tax credit on the grounds that she a) works, and b) has a family. She also claims child benefit on the grounds she has children. Just like hundreds of thousands of other people in this Country. Think about it. She is being offered these benefits so she is accepting them, in much the same way as you accept any benefits you may be entitled to.

As to the second part of the last quote from you, I believe a 16 year old is now classed as a responsible person regarding the care of younger siblings. The oldest child is 16 so perhaps that is where the child care comes from whilst Miss Kozlovska is working?

I think your argument, and I suspect many others including mine, is not against those claiming the benefit, rather it is against Governments who have made it possible for them to be claimed so readily.

Regards,

kev35

When you think that Leicester is now an ethnic minority, and Boston Lincs where 1 in 5 is from Europe, then yes, I do believe it affects our economy.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

With what can only be described as impeccable timing, thank you for proving my point for me.
Do you really think immigration is the cause of the nation’s problems?

If they offered these free loaders food stamps instead of money, I wonder how many of them would stay in the UK?

We are not responsible for funding families from other countries, no wonder our economy is in such trouble.

DerekF.
If she is self employed, as you state, how is she able to get all the benefits she doe’s?. And if working, who is looking after her family whilst she is at work.
I wish I could, “Work they system” as she seems able to do.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

I have no idea what her family arrangements are, nor do I care. Maybe the fact that her eldest children are in their teens has something to do with it. I don’t know.
As far benefits are concerned, if you aren’t earning enough the government will help with rent etc. Even my family were entitled to family tax credits until Gorgeous Gideon removed them.

My main concern is the insidious nature of trying to blame immigration for the nation’s ills.

BSG-75.

Do you, and others on the forum, think we should go the Australian way, it’s very tough to get in there, as there rules and regs are much tighter than ours.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Not 100% sure, there are facts and figures and red tops to consider…. plus the speech about this issue that ( if I recall correctly) was attributed to the Australian PM was in fact a fake.

As a tax payer and citizen (sorry, subject we are not citizens in the UK) then yes, my general belief is that it is far too easy to enter the country and obtain income support having made no contribution. That said, UK passport holders can also gain a wide variety of benefits in excess of the 30k odd mentioned without working (by choice/circumstance/design) so on the whole, the benefits systems is too open in my view and yes, stronger immigration controls (and enforcement) are needed.

DerekF.
If she is self employed, as you state, how is she able to get all the benefits she doe’s?. And if working, who is looking after her family whilst she is at work.
I wish I could, “Work they system” as she seems able to do.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

2)No.this was not mentioned, but with 10 kids, I would think it highly unlikely.

Turns out, by the simple task of reading the article, that she is a self-employed cleaner. At least that’s something and probably a great deal more than most are willing to do.

3) They were not starving in latvia, and are you advocating she should get more than 37K, just to make sure they don’t?.

No, I’m not saying that at all. But they should not be allowed to starve. I have no idea if they, as a family, were struggling in Latvia, maybe you have more information than I do.

As BSG-75 says, a slow news day and a story guaranteed to wind-up the Daily Mail/Sun readers.

Kev. No, as nothing was mentioned re twins, however, she had a figure to die for, and if all those offsprings are hers, I would be surprised.
Kev, as you seem to know quite a lot of usefull info on the forum, am I correct in saying that they,(The other 6) may be from another member of her family, who would be fully entitled to come over here?.
B.T.W. I like your pun.;)
Jim.
Lincoln .7

4)She has 10 kids, and she is 31 yrs of age, are you telling me they are all hers?.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

Quite conceivable (pun fully intended.) A child each year is not all that uncommon. Have you considered that there may be one or more pairs of twins?

Regards,

kev35

BSG-75.

Do you, and others on the forum, think we should go the Australian way, it’s very tough to get in there, as there rules and regs are much tighter than ours.
Jim.
Lincoln .7

A few questions.

Does it make a difference whether she is from Latvia or not?
Does she work to at least try and pay her way?
Do you want her children to starve?
Are you willing to allow the state to tell you how big a family you are allowed to have or to bring into the country?

As a fellow member of the EU, Latvians are allowed to work here, as we are allowed to work there.
Them’s the rules.

them is the rules, depends on how you apply them though. The Irish have deported EU citizens (OK, I saw it reported not at first hand myself) who were deemed to economic migrants ( I believe that was the phrase)

also, if I went to live in Denmark for example, an EU state, I would have to follow a few steps before I could work or claim benefits.

1) Pass and fund a language exam myself.
2) Pass a citizenship exam, in Danish, funded by myself.
3) Only work when I have done the above,
4) Only claim benefits after the above and show track record of applications.

I can’t vouch for how strongly the track record on job applications is checked, and the reference to Latvia is not relevent, but an EU citizen can travel to the Uk, passing through other member states and claim support and benefit without making any national contribution, to the extent of claiming child support for non resident children.

It is “red top” fodder on a slow news day and can get quite emotive but getting into the UK, and taking money from the UK is as easier and less restricted than it is in other EU member states. I can’t speak for it being any easier in other states but from what I know, there seems to be an imbalance somewhere along the line.

And the fathers names are ……..( Big Drum roll…….)

There was an old lady who lived in a Shoe …
etc …etc …

A few answers.
1)None whatsoever, but add to that all the Poles, Ukranians, etc, and the numbers soon mount up, this is just ONE example, in Boston,where, 1 in 5 are foreners
from Europe.
2)No.this was not mentioned, but with 10 kids, I would think it highly unlikely.
3) They were not starving in latvia, and are you advocating she should get more than 37K, just to make sure they don’t?.
4)She has 10 kids, and she is 31 yrs of age, are you telling me they are all hers?.
5) If YOU had 10 kids, and went to any E.U. Country, would you expect that Country to give you these same benefits?. No, thats why they come here, because we are a soft touch.

Jim.
Lincoln .7

A few questions.

Does it make a difference whether she is from Latvia or not?
Does she work to at least try and pay her way?
Do you want her children to starve?
Are you willing to allow the state to tell you how big a family you are allowed to have or to bring into the country?

As a fellow member of the EU, Latvians are allowed to work here, as we are allowed to work there.
Them’s the rules.

Was it not Gordon Brown who stated, “Let them in, because they would be good for the U.K. economy”?.
I was under the impression, they should be allowed to stay in a European Country, first, that they pass through.ie Germany, France etc.:confused:
Jim.
Lincoln .7

Isn’t there a cap coming in shortly @£25k?

Id have her back on the boat to her own country, why on earth can’t we just say NO?