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By: T J Johansen - 19th January 2015 at 20:09

Well, I guess what I really meant by an individual was more of a one man band, than someone with a full group of volunteers and running things like a business.

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By: Wyvernfan - 19th January 2015 at 18:41

Good to hear. And the guy has owned it for 35 years. That is quite a good stretch…

Are there any other warbirds in the UK with as long or longer ownership by a single individual..?

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Several I should imagine, such as B-17 Sally B with Elly Sallingboe probably coming near the top regarding flyers. Also TFC’s Bearcat must be nearing 35 years with Stephen Grey !

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By: rafmatt - 19th January 2015 at 17:20

Ex Greenpeace Catalina is now on its way home to Miami.
Moving to Southampton to be loaded onto the ship.
Was moved by the guys at Airventure Ltd

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By: Duggy - 19th January 2015 at 15:05

These are taken in 1943 in North Africa (but does not say where) of the first P-47’s in the MTO.
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By: OHOPE - 19th January 2015 at 05:35

I seem to remember the A4s being towed up the main street in Auckland from the docks .

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By: T J Johansen - 18th January 2015 at 15:30

G-BICE still flies from time to time, I haven’t seen it for a while but tend to see the owner two or three times a year.

Good to hear. And the guy has owned it for 35 years. That is quite a good stretch…

Are there any other warbirds in the UK with as long or longer ownership by a single individual..?

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By: Stan Smith - 18th January 2015 at 03:22

1980’s Harvards To Aussie. Fit spreader bar across U/C towpoints Remove outer wings and empennage, stow ended opposite on spreader and strap up against padded fuselage, remove tailwheel assembly, fit towbar (with jockey wheel). Put all the extraneous bits in the cockpits. Hook on to ball hitch on a suitable towing vehicle. Trundle via motorway through Auckland (including Harbour Bridge) and deliver to docks. Stevedore tractor tows assembly on to Roll On ferry and off it goes across the Tasman. Gets there and delivered by road to Col Pay’s at Scone. Job done.

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 18th January 2015 at 00:48

As for something completely different (mentioned in the Ipswich history), does Colin Edwards Harvard G-BICE still fly?

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G-BICE still flies from time to time, I haven’t seen it for a while but tend to see the owner two or three times a year.

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By: Supermarine305 - 17th January 2015 at 23:04

Looks like he clipped a tree or two on the way 🙂

And what are those strips on the forward fuselage? They don’t seem to be attached to anything that would help the aircraft stay on the trailers.

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By: Airfixtwin - 17th January 2015 at 17:14

Always bigger in the States!
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https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2512/3851761711_b35721c18e_o.jpgC-17 Fuselage Arrives at Fort Lee by Fort Lee Traveller, on Flickr

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By: T J Johansen - 17th January 2015 at 15:50

Yak 11 is right on the money here. The WofGB 38 flew both ways (courtesy of Mike Wright), and was back in its homeland in the summer of 1990. Having spent just a year in the UK.

As for the F6F, the WofGB example was still in Florida with Don Whittington in 1992. I saw it at World Jet in Feb. of that year. This leaves the TFC -5K which I think arrived in late summer of 90.

As for the Corsair, could one be the ex- Yancey -4 that WofGB bought? It came through the docks in early 88, prior to N55JP arriving.

As for something completely different (mentioned in the Ipswich history), does Colin Edwards Harvard G-BICE still fly?

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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th January 2015 at 18:59

Some aircraft are easy to transport by road – you put them on a roof rack!
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The Aeroplane Collection’s Benson Wallis autogyro about to take part in a parade through the streets of Manchester to gain interest in turning an old railway station and vegitable market into a science museum. (They became MOSI and PUD has lived there since it opened).
The idea was to take runs pushing PUD around the streets but when we found ourselves behind a traction engine the clothesline used to tie it on the roof rack came in handy as a tow rope.
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By: heli1 - 16th January 2015 at 16:11

The Helicopter Museum used to tow helicopters thre miles to the seafront for exhibition and also once towed the Belvedere a mile or more on the main road to RAF Locking…….we stopped because of concern that the wheel bearings weren’t really up to long distance towing at 20 plus mph and towing at low speed irritated the motorists stuck behind……..those were the days!

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By: TwinOtter23 - 16th January 2015 at 13:22

Thank you for the update and good luck with this interesting move, is it this weekend?

If it is, typically cold weather for aircraft moves and I don’t envy you working outside in these temperatures. I’m already unpacking my thermals for a group visit tomorrow to NAM, from the volunteers over at the Metheringham Museum.

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By: rafmatt - 16th January 2015 at 13:10

Sorry It’s not going to be on its wheels but on the back of two low loaders.
It has been quite good to be able to be involved in moving it to the States.
Lots of components having to be secured in hand made crates and loaded into 4 containers which left a few weeks ago.
Only the Fuselage and center section to move.

What it looked like a few years ago.

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By: Yak 11 Fan - 16th January 2015 at 12:34

The Bearcat, Wildcat and P38 were all bound for Duxford in 1991/92 and the Corsairs & Avengers were in 1988-1989, so probably Doug Arnold

http://www.ravenswood-residents.org.uk/old/airport_history/index.htm

From memory the P38 was for TFC at Duxford (The Arnold P38 flew in and out of the UK)
The Bearcat and Wildcat were Doug Arnold’s and arrived around Christmas time.
One Avenger was for OFMC, the other for Tony Haig Thomas. I think the OFMC one went out in the same way as well.
I suspect one of the Corsairs was N240CA for OFMC the other N55JP which came in for Doug Arnold and later ended up with OFMC (I could be wrong on the last one).
The Hellcat would have been TFC’s at a guess as I know the Arnold one was flown across from the states.

It was a long time ago….

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By: TwinOtter23 - 16th January 2015 at 11:10

I will let you know how much of a challenge it is once we move a substantial warbird air frame in the next few days.

I’ll bite rafmatt, any clue about the type of “substantial warbird air frame” that you’ll be towing on the road?

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By: Jon H - 16th January 2015 at 10:53

There’s been some great shots added in this thread Here’s another road move..

A reasonably common site in Liverpool during the war (this picture will have been taken from the Overhead Railway looking up Water St with a few Liverpool Corporation Tramways Baby Grand and or Green Goddess trams thrown in for good measuse) as aircraft were unloaded at the docks and then moved to Speke for reassembly.

EDIT: Just seen there are several more pictures of movements in the link above!

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By: TonyT - 16th January 2015 at 10:01

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