February 26, 2005 at 12:08 pm
At the end of December I visited Middle Wallop for the first time.
Even though it is a bit dark inside, the museum contains some superb aircraft and gliders, along with histories on the airfield and the Army Air Corps.
Attached are a few photos:
By: EHVB - 6th December 2007 at 14:01
The “no photography ” lines are now removed from their website. So either it is allowed now, or still forbidden and told after arriving/paying on site. BW Roger
By: Elmo - 2nd December 2007 at 21:22
Its the most dimly lit museum i’ve ever visited making photography almost impossible with a 35mm,even friends with digital cameras struggled.
By: Rlangham - 2nd December 2007 at 20:42
Must admit it’s put me off visiting as well, as I was hoping to photograph the Auster V there – it’s one of the few Auster variants I haven’t seen yet, at least in wartime guise
By: Scouse - 2nd December 2007 at 20:23
From a look at the website I fear that the diplomatic skills of Aeronut and his colleagues will be sorely tested in the weeks to come.
I have a cunning plan, as someone used to say on telly. A friend up here is an ex-WW2 glider pilot, Arnhem veteran and all the rest, taught to fly by Jackie Coogan in the US. A picture of his younger self is on display at the MAF, and whenever he is down south he always pays a visit.
If some jobsworth were either to throw him out of confiscate his camera, a word in the ear of the local freelance press agency would almost certainly trigger a chain of events that would have the MAF wrong-footed almost from the word go. The Daily Mail may not be my cup of tea as a paper, but it does have its uses!:D
By: Aeronut - 2nd December 2007 at 19:45
I’ve just returned from my stint as Duty Manager at MAF and this is the first I’ve heard so I will check it out. :confused:
There is a new management team at the museum and I do know that they are being driven down a more commercial path by goverment numpties.
In the past I’ve opened cockpits and cowlings and let photographers across the barriers – just so long as they asked and didn’t consider it to be their right.
I’m not looking forward to being haranged by enraged photographers.:(
By: ollieholmes - 2nd December 2007 at 18:49
be interesting to know the rationale, but I can only see it losing them visitors.
Possibly so they can sell more postcards etc.
By: Spey111 - 2nd December 2007 at 18:44
I was just thinking of planning a return visit there sometime in the next month. Now I won’t bother. I knew they wouldn’t allow tripods in the past but now it seems from their web site no photography at all.
The Kent Battle of Britain Museum at Hawkinge also bans photography. I haven’t visited there either.
By: DaveF68 - 2nd December 2007 at 17:02
be interesting to know the rationale, but I can only see it losing them visitors.
By: Rlangham - 2nd December 2007 at 16:42
Not aviation but maybe related to the Museum of Army Flying – the excellent National Army Museum in Chelsea also has no photography, and they take your bag off you before entering
By: JDK - 2nd December 2007 at 05:31
Not heard anything about it, but you are right:
Photography
From 1st December 2007 NO PHOTOGRAPHY will be allowed inside the musuem
[sic]
Very few aviation museums demand this restriction, and when they do it’s proffered as a ‘security measure’ – less enforceable today than it ever was. AFAIK, no other forces of national level aviation museum does this in the UK. Anyone know more?
By: mike currill - 8th August 2005 at 19:42
Sorry, actually its a Lancashire Aircraft Company Prospector, and its a composite of several airframes
Originally Edgar Percival hence the EP Type no
By: uksceneryman - 7th August 2005 at 11:10
If it is the real jeep
It *is* the real one.
No ‘ifs’ needed.
By: Aeronut - 7th August 2005 at 09:36
The Rotabuggy was flown at RAF Snaith, but It went with AFEE to Beaulieu. But not before it lost its rotor and tail feathers. There is a photo of it (a Jeep with a tall windscreen) towing a trailer on which there is a FA330 gyro kite. If it is the real jeep at Wallop maybe its time to build the rotor system properly now that the original drawings have been found. Anyoner know if ML still have the drawings for the tail – it was built by R Malcolm Ltd at Slough (part of the ML Avaiation empire)
By: uksceneryman - 7th August 2005 at 06:38
Yes, but….. its actually a Willys Jeep, and even then not the original Rotabuggy.
This is a ‘recreation’ built around a standard jeep.
The Jeep you mention was actually the original Jeep used for the Rotabuggy. I knew the previous owner (who had been at Beaulieu, where they tested it) and for years he’d used the Jeep normally and had people asking why it was fitted with an altimeter!
In more recent times he decided to recreate the Rotabuggy and so fabricated the empennage.
So actually it’s not built around a standard Jeep, at all, to be correct.
By: Rlangham - 6th August 2005 at 22:23
Looks like the Museum of Army Flying has joined forces with the catering department to make an interesting museum – the Museum of Army Frying!
By: Aeronut - 6th August 2005 at 22:12
The rear fuselage of the Hotspur is an original (although neither of the two serial numbers it carried are that of the finished scheme. The Blitz buggy replica is a fair representation when compared to the original drawings in the museum. Hanging above it is what can only be described as Little Nellie’s grandmother the Haffner Rotachute.
By: Rlangham - 6th August 2005 at 12:26
Sorry, actually its a Lancashire Aircraft Company Prospector, and its a composite of several airframes
By: Rlangham - 6th August 2005 at 12:19
Very nice, cheers! XM819 is a Lincolnshire Prospector, intended as a replacement for the Auster but helicopters were used instead. As far as i know, only the Hotspur glider (one hanging from the ceiling) is a replica, the other gliders are either original, or, in the case of one of the Horsa fuselages and the Hamilcar (huge glider) composites of various pieces of gliders.
By: BlueRobin - 6th August 2005 at 12:13
What is XM819? Auster Ambulance?
BN Islanders are still on AAC charge according our database.
Interesting pics.
By: turbo_NZ - 6th August 2005 at 11:22
Great pics !!
Are the gliders recreations also ?
TNZ