Was looking at the Heinkel He176 and reminded that the worlds first designed rocket propelled aircraft was destroyed in Berlin Air Museum – along with other unique aircraft – by RAF bombing on 23-24/11/1943.
Is there a list of all the aircraft that were destroyed? Survivors were trained out to hide in Poland, where they .
There must have been other museums bombed and other museum pieces destroyed or damaged throughout the recent history of conflict; anyone have any information?
As a starter – Short 184 8359, which had been in action at Jutland in 1916, was presented to the IWM in 1917 and was badly damaged during the Blitz, 1940; the remains are on display at the FAA Museum, Yeovilton.
By: Supermarine305 - 6th August 2014 at 19:04
Would I be right in thinking after Japan’s surrender its surviving museum aircraft -along with its army and navy air forces- were destroyed as part of the disarmament process?
I am sure I have read that somewhere and it stuck in my head. But I can’t find where.
By: adrian_gray - 6th August 2014 at 12:49
They certainly put an LGB through a parked Hawker (Sea) Fury.
I also remember a US bigwig showing journalists film of a Hercules gunship blazing seven bells out of a Hunter (gate guard?), and wondering whether any of them realised he was being made a twerp of.
Adrian
By: ericmunk - 6th August 2014 at 12:45
The German bombardments on Schiphol (May 10th, 1940) destroyed most of the collection of the infant Nationaal Luchtvaartmuseum. A Fokker F.VII and the last Fokker F.II were lost, as were most artifacts. A Fokker D.VII was impounded at the orders of Hermann Goering himself, and taken to the Berlin museum for display.
By: Mike J - 6th August 2014 at 12:26
I seem to recall hearing of a number of derelict airframes (possibly historic) destroyed during the Iraq war.
They certainly put an LGB through a parked Hawker (Sea) Fury.
By: Mike J - 6th August 2014 at 12:25
By: adrian_gray - 6th August 2014 at 12:22
Dunno about the history but I reckon from the letters on the remains of the nose that it’s a Halberstadt, possibly a CLII?
http://www.wwiaviation.com/gallery-halberstadt.html
Adrian
By: xtangomike - 6th August 2014 at 12:12
Cracow 1989
These are two of many pics of Cracow, Poland during a trip .n 1989. Can someone identify the aircraft and its history please.
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By: hampden98 - 5th August 2014 at 22:17
I seem to recall hearing of a number of derelict airframes (possibly historic) destroyed during the Iraq war.
By: barnstormer - 5th August 2014 at 19:46
On a trip to Berlin with the director of the Technik Museum, Dr Holger Steinle, he showed us the remains of the original building. Berlin is a city quite at home with its past.
I share that same wonderful memory, Bruce. One afternoon Holger and I sat looking at that giant piece of concrete slab sticking out of the ground, and discusssing the layout of the destroyed museum. I remember our wives saying we were certainly crazy! 😀
After that, we went back to his offices, and looked through several files of original photos from the museum. Holger and Michael Hundertmark wrote a great illustrated book on the history of the Deutsche Luftfahrt Sammlung, Berlin, Titled “Phoeniz Aus der Asche” In 1985
By: Consul - 5th August 2014 at 16:11
Tim,
When you write to Santa later this year, I suggest you add an Atlas to your list of requests.
Kbely = Czech, Krakow = Poland. 😉
Ooops and double oops – what the heck was I thinking! Absolutely right ….and I’ve been to Krakow too. I’ll accept the wally award for today – apologies. I’ve deleted my earlier post.
Tim
By: Lazy8 - 5th August 2014 at 14:18
When you write to Santa later this year, I suggest you add an Atlas to your list of requests.
Ooooh yes! A Siskin would be nice too. 😀
By: Mike J - 5th August 2014 at 13:39
A wonderful collection at Kbely.
Tim,
When you write to Santa later this year, I suggest you add an Atlas to your list of requests.
Kbely = Czech, Krakow = Poland. 😉
By: snafu - 5th August 2014 at 12:25
All gone quiet…
Lazily can’t find a list for the content – before its destruction – of the Deutsche Luftfahrt-Sammlung (or whatever), so with a nod at the other thread featuring a Dornier Wal I shall mention that D-1422, formerly N-25 and G-EBQO, one of two used by Amundsen unsuccessfully to try and fly to the North Pole in 1925, was preserved there until its destruction in the air raid.
By: JDK - 17th July 2014 at 04:42
Snafu, you’re quite right, I read it wrong, my sincere apology.
I was also unaware that the He 176 (as well as the 178) were in the Berlin museum. So I learned something too.
Regards,
By: snafu - 16th July 2014 at 22:22
The He 178 was the first successful jet-engined powered aircraft.
Indeed it was but, as I said above, the He 176 was a different aircraft with a rocket engine.
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By: Arabella-Cox - 16th July 2014 at 21:20
The Science Museum’s Avro 504 was damaged during WW2. A few years ago when it was on display at Middle Wallop I had a close look and you could see where the fabric had been repaired post war. Original fabric had frayed edge rib tapes, the repair used pinked edged tapes.
By: Guns80 - 16th July 2014 at 19:38
I seem to remember an excellent article in Flypast some years ago including many pictures of the Berlin Museum. I’m sure I’ve also seen pictures of the Do X wrecked post VE Day this may have been in the same article.
By: Mike J - 16th July 2014 at 18:45
Do you have a link please?
By: DaveF68 - 16th July 2014 at 18:10
The German wikepedia site has what is purported to be a complete list of all the airframes in the musem
By: Mike J - 16th July 2014 at 17:35
It had sprouted some wings when I visited last year…
Although they weren’t altogether convincing. Similar to modern building restorations where new bits have to be easily identified I suppose?
MDF? 😀
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